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Black4Truck · 10-25-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

your cable is not free you are stealing it.

The cable companies don't lose any sleep when they slam us every month for channels I don't watch, but are "included" in the package I have to buy in order to get cable TV.

Anyone who can beat these guys should get an award.. free cable

Ray Cyr · 10-25-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

I remember a story my Mom told me from her childhood it seems one morning the neighbors milk cow had gotten loose and wandered down to my Grandfathers house. Grandpa had just traded his cow to another neighbor which is a story for another day.Well no milk cow no milk so when my Mom saw the neigbors cow it was manna from heaven she ran to the barn for a pail and was soon proudly walking into the house with a pail of fresh milk. Well her joy was short lived as my Grandfather asked were she had come by the pail of fresh milk. Mom not being one to lie to Grandpa told him of the neigbors cow she had tied up outside and that she was going to return the cow after breakfast. Grandfather then asked if the neigbor had givin her permission to milk the cow of course Mom told hin no. Grandpa then told Mom to return the neigbors cow along with the pail of milk because they did not belong to them. So before breakfast Mom carried a pail of milk while leading a cow the almost two miles to the neigbors farm.

we have alowed to much grey into what should be very black and white.

That is a nice story and grandpa was right

. Unfortunately, the story is irrelevant, to try to compare the story to the situation with the cable company is akin to comparing apples to oranges.

user5941 · 10-25-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Cyr

That is a nice story and grandpa was right

. Unfortunately, the story is irrelevant, to try to compare the story to the situation with the cable company is akin to comparing apples to oranges.

The difference is today some would argue that the cow was on your property so keeping the milk would be OK or some would say it was just a pail of milk and after all the kids needed milk. The best way for evil to triumph

is for the good to do nothing

. Grandpa would answer like this, did you pay for the cable? no. should you pay for the cable? yes why aren't you paying for the cable? at this point the only right answer to Grandpa would be I am going to make it right and pay for the cable. No grey area just right or wrong. No apples no oranges just do the right thing because it is the right thing to do.

nolabama · 10-25-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

I remember a story my Mom told me from her childhood it seems one morning the neighbors milk cow had gotten loose and wandered down to my Grandfathers house. Grandpa had just traded his cow to another neighbor which is a story for another day.Well no milk cow no milk so when my Mom saw the neigbors cow it was manna from heaven she ran to the barn for a pail and was soon proudly walking into the house with a pail of fresh milk. Well her joy was short lived as my Grandfather asked were she had come by the pail of fresh milk. Mom not being one to lie to Grandpa told him of the neigbors cow she had tied up outside and that she was going to return the cow after breakfast. Grandfather then asked if the neigbor had givin her permission to milk the cow of course Mom told hin no. Grandpa then told Mom to return the neigbors cow along with the pail of milk because they did not belong to them. So before breakfast Mom carried a pail of milk while leading a cow the almost two miles to the neigbors farm.

we have alowed to much grey into what should be very black and white.

i think your a pretty good addition to our little group here - but a milk cow and a cable company ?

and taking $20 bucks because i have a thousand makes it right?

if i left a $20 bill on your desk and you called me to tell me i left it and i never returned for it or returned you call is one thing.

but a service such as cable that is there and the lazy service man that wont go and unhook it - should i get my ladder and unhook it and send them a bill for the use of my services and then get pissed off that they wont pay me ? all the while i sleep better because i am doing the right thing

misserys telco companies ceo pay packages

AT&T said in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission that company CEO Randall Stephenson received a compensation package worth about $15 million

charter communications which is in chapter 11 due no doubt to cable theft

Under its Value Creation Plan, Charter pay Chief Executive Neil Smit up to $8.5 million if the company successfully restructures and if he reaches specified targets during each of the three years following the company's emergence from restructuring.

Comcast Communications
Ralph J. Roberts Chairman SALARY BONUS $1,653,750
Brian L. Roberts President SALARY BONUS $2.787 million

btw milk is 5 dollars a gallon here now and i cant even find a compensation pay pakage for doug smith

jrannis · 10-25-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nolabama

i dont know what the answer is to the OP's question. i dont think they will notice. Now if you drill a hole in the disk and drop a small rod in it thats another story. so is breaking the little tab thingy. My favorite of course was from a guy we called "right-right" - cut the 2"rigid in the attic and install a 2" GUAT, make a tap of the service feeder and run that to a small panel for your HVAC, water heater, and stove ........

that only works of course if you have a stem thru the attic and are a complete doouche and theif

You should also have a 200amp contactor open the load to the house when the meter is pulled

nolabama · 10-25-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jrannis

You should also have a 200amp contactor open the load to the house when the meter is pulled

never gave right-right's idea much thought - yeah a contactor would give that contraption a stealth mode - putting that meter back in might result in a little fireworks however

Mr. Sparkle · 10-25-2009, 11:51 PM

I know someone who did jail time back in the 80's for a pretty ingenious contraption like that, the electric wasn't the only thing he rigged either. Part of his plea was that he had to basically consult all the utility companies on what to look out for.

And premium cable used to be so easy to steal, you didn't even need a hot box, all you needed to do was climb the pole and remove the in line filter, presto....all the premium channels....at least before the digital era.

RMatthis · 11-10-2009, 10:13 PM

OK TRUE STORY!
A guy I worked with years ago told me what happened to him when HE decided to mess with ComED...
He used to pull his meter (or put it upside down, I don't remember) one week a month. He did it for a very long time...then one day ComED came out to his house after an investigation and DEMANDED he pay them almost 10 grand for the money they owed him! They sent their crew UP the pole, clipped his connection and said "we'll put it back on after you pay us"
He had to take a loan to pay the power company back!
I think that if they wanted to, they could make you pay...Honesty is the best policy.

sparks134 · 11-10-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RMatthis

OK TRUE STORY!
A guy I worked with years ago told me what happened to him when HE decided to mess with ComED...
He used to pull his meter (or put it upside down, I don't remember) one week a month. He did it for a very long time...then one day ComED came out to his house after an investigation and DEMANDED he pay them almost 10 grand for the money they owed him! They sent their crew UP the pole, clipped his connection and said "we'll put it back on after you pay us"
He had to take a loan to pay the power company back!
I think that if they wanted to, they could make you pay...Honesty is the best policy.

Yeah! You really don't want to mess with ComEd!!!

pepper · 12-04-2009, 02:00 PM

UPDATE--- meter started working the other day. just out of the blue , was a few cheap bills for frend but its back to paying again

nolabama · 12-04-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper

UPDATE--- meter started working the other day. just out of the blue , was a few cheap bills for frend but its back to paying again

Glad to here he has joined the honest people.

Grimlock · 12-04-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper

UPDATE--- meter started working the other day. just out of the blue , was a few cheap bills for frend but its back to paying again

Yea, some times the magnet falls off the side when left for a few weeks. You know, from rain, dew, wind, guilt, remorse, and such.

LawnGuyLandSparky · 12-05-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimlock

Yea, some times the magnet falls off the side when left for a few weeks. You know, from rain, dew, wind, guilt, remorse, and such.

MAgnet? Tell me more...

eddy current · 12-06-2009, 08:39 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKDbXhYQwEY
Not free? You guys are beemin the signal to my trailer park without my permission. So I got these little things that pick the signal up from space. What, do you own space?

jrannis · 12-06-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky

MAgnet? Tell me more...

I hear that some people lean a broom or mop with a magnet in it next to the meter but, every thing inside of the meter looks like its aluminum to me so I don't know how well it would work

smitty1358 · 12-06-2009, 10:53 AM

Did you know also your meter only reads the highest leg. So a balanced load will lower your bill. Keep your eyes open for the next big thing comin out of Detroit brothers, cut your bill in half!

smitty1358 · 12-06-2009, 11:04 AM

Broom stick and magnet? Be for real! Call me on your two tin cans tied to a string and tell me about it. My # is dot dot dash ....

macmikeman · 12-06-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by user5941

I remember a story my Mom told me from her childhood it seems one morning the neighbors milk cow had gotten loose and wandered down to my Grandfathers house. Grandpa had just traded his cow to another neighbor which is a story for another day.Well no milk cow no milk so when my Mom saw the neigbors cow it was manna from heaven she ran to the barn for a pail and was soon proudly walking into the house with a pail of fresh milk. Well her joy was short lived as my Grandfather asked were she had come by the pail of fresh milk. Mom not being one to lie to Grandpa told him of the neigbors cow she had tied up outside and that she was going to return the cow after breakfast. Grandfather then asked if the neigbor had givin her permission to milk the cow of course Mom told hin no. Grandpa then told Mom to return the neigbors cow along with the pail of milk because they did not belong to them. So before breakfast Mom carried a pail of milk while leading a cow the almost two miles to the neigbors farm.

we have alowed to much grey into what should be very black and white.

Then I hope you leave $50 bucks on the nightstand every time you and your wife get friendly, cause some charge for that also, and with your absolute black and white stance we wouldn't want you to stray into a gray area of cheating proper commerce....

pepper · 12-06-2009, 04:39 PM

No, this was for real guys the dude done nothing wrong he said he thinks it happend durning a thunder storm, I saw the meter myself and it had nothing around it and the tag has not been removed so it could have been struck

If it had been mine it would have probley spun faster

Burglife · 12-21-2009, 10:40 PM

If he didn't rig the meter himself then I want to say no. He has no legal duty to report it to the power co.

However, their is a legal principle called "Unjust Enrichment" that could be argued.