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DAM.. those
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guys..making the rules really thought this one out
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And y'all thought the cow was the reason.  
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10-08-2009, 07:39 PM
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10-08-2009, 07:42 PM
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damn a job done in all pipe must cost 2x the price of running romex n bx plus also 2x more labor sucks to be in the windy city
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10-08-2009, 07:46 PM
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damn a job done in all pipe must cost 2x the price of running romex n bx plus also 2x more labor sucks to be in the windy city
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I don't understand all this hostility about the cost of running of pipe, the time it takes, etc.
The man installing it makes good money.
The EC makes good money.
The hacks and DIYers are kept to a minimum.
As an electrician ~ why do some of you get bent over this?
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10-08-2009, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Celtic
I don't understand all this hostility about the cost of running of pipe, the time it takes, etc.
The man installing it makes good money.
The EC makes good money.
The hacks and DIYers are kept to a minimum.
As an electrician ~ why do some of you get bent over this?
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I agree. I wouldnt mind running a little pipe once in a while. I acually miss it. And it makes even more sense to use a little pipe in a house that big.
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10-08-2009, 08:08 PM
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Nice work. Those of you who like your NM can keep it just make sure you gfci and afci EVERYTHING. I'll stick to my metal raceway.
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10-08-2009, 08:23 PM
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Nice work. Those of you who like your NM can keep it just make sure you gfci and afci EVERYTHING. I'll stick to my metal raceway.
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EVERYTHING !!!!????  btw, welcome.
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10-08-2009, 09:25 PM
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Nice work. Those of you who like your NM can keep it just make sure you gfci and afci EVERYTHING. I'll stick to my metal raceway.
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Im not against emt but are you telling us that houses dont burn down in Chicago....?
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10-08-2009, 09:54 PM
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Nice work. Those of you who like your NM can keep it just make sure you gfci and afci EVERYTHING. I'll stick to my metal raceway.
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By all means I'm a conduit man, but what makes it better than romex in a house? Why would you need GFCI and AFCI protection on everything?
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10-08-2009, 09:55 PM
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By all means I'm a conduit man, but what makes it better than romex in a house? Why would you need GFCI and AFCI protection on everything?
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Don't fall into the trap. Every now and then the "Chicago guys" will make a statement like that and disappear. I don't take those comments seriously at all. 
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10-08-2009, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Celtic
I don't understand all this hostility about the cost of running of pipe, the time it takes, etc.
The man installing it makes good money.
The EC makes good money.
The hacks and DIYers are kept to a minimum.
As an electrician ~ why do some of you get bent over this?
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Why work harder than you need to?
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10-08-2009, 09:56 PM
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10-08-2009, 10:01 PM
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The man installing it makes good money.
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No doubt about that. Hourly workers never end up on the short end of the stick.
He might have walked away from the job and made $1. 
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The hacks and DIYers are kept to a minimum.
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Nothing can keep hacks and DIY's to a minimum. They'll run romex right by that conduit without a second thought.
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As an electrician ~ why do some of you get bent over this?
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As an electrician I would never get bent out of shape over something like this. However, if I had to pay the bill for wiring a home completely with EMT I would definitely get bent out of shape.
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10-08-2009, 10:07 PM
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Why work harder than you need to?
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It's really not that difficult ~ it's 1/2" and 3/4" EMT.
What's the problem ???
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10-08-2009, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Celtic
It's really not that difficult ~ it's 1/2" and 3/4" EMT.
What's the problem ???
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Can someone that runs conduit in a house run a 10' piece without having to cut it in half just to get it in the studs. It is bound to take 2 to 3 times more couplings.
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10-08-2009, 10:11 PM
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He might have walked away from the job and made $1.
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He could easily walk away from a romex job $1 richer as well.
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Originally Posted by Peter D
Nothing can keep hacks and DIY's to a minimum. They'll run romex right by that conduit without a second thought.
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Do they even sell NM at Big Box in Chicago-Land?
I know for a long time I couldn't get NM and plastic boxes in Staten Island [just south west of Manhatten].....NYC code did not allow NM/plastic boxes ~ so why stock what you cannot move rapidly?
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10-08-2009, 10:13 PM
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Can someone that runs conduit in a house run a 10' piece without having to cut it in half just to get it in the studs. It is bound to take 2 to 3 times more couplings.
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That makes it "difficult"?
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10-08-2009, 10:13 PM
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If you had a 27,000 sq.ft. the only thing getting bent would be the maid
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You know thats right.
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10-08-2009, 10:13 PM
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Not Peter D
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Says the married man with three children. 
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10-08-2009, 10:14 PM
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Unlimited Lic.Electrician
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...and?
That makes it "difficult"?
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No, it just seems like a waste of time and money.
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