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11-11-2009, 08:16 PM
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Does this mean you are not an electrician?
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Its worse than a DIY 480 says OP is an engineer.
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11-11-2009, 08:39 PM
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Its worse than a DIY 480 says OP is an engineer.
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Ha,Ha,Ha...
Too many times I have walked into troubleshoot a problem and the first words I hear "well my neighbor who's an electrical engineer"...LOL
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11-11-2009, 09:04 PM
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Wagos!
Seriously though they work great. No twist, no tape, and visual confirmation of connection.
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11-11-2009, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by idontknow
Wagos!
Seriously though they work great. No twist, no tape, and visual confirmation of connection.
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They make life easier for sure...but I still like to twist all my wires. Call me old school. I have a feeling that in 20 years we'll all be saying, "well those were good in their day but..."
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11-12-2009, 03:15 PM
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Just CAD weld the wires together and be done with it already. (Then tape it)
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11-12-2009, 03:29 PM
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you need some HV rubber tape, then go 4 times around with Super 33, and then use some shrink tape on it. that should do the trick
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11-12-2009, 04:22 PM
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you need some HV rubber tape, then go 4 times around with Super 33, and then use some shrink tape on it. that should do the trick
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you forgot the cambric  - I would highly recommend this particular individual application have cambric tape.
HV rubber tape, then cambric then super 33 then the shrink tape that should hold up.
that or a polaris tap
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11-12-2009, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nolabama
you forgot the cambric - I would highly recommend this particular individual application have cambric tape.
HV rubber tape, then cambric then super 33 then the shrink tape that should hold up.
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How could I forget!!! 
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11-12-2009, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nolabama
you forgot the cambric - I would highly recommend this particular individual application have cambric tape.
HV rubber tape, then cambric then super 33 then the shrink tape that should hold up.
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Only a hack would omit the potting compound
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11-12-2009, 11:24 PM
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Better wire em up with teck cable, romex wont hold up!
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11-13-2009, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cdnelectrician
Better wire em up with teck cable, romex wont hold up!
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No, we better go with copper bus just to be on the safe side.
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11-13-2009, 03:08 PM
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I would use Polaris connectors and then wrap them with an 1/8" minimum of Super 88.
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11-13-2009, 05:33 PM
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Only a hack would omit the potting compound
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So I am a hack-whats potting compound.
dont google it i am gonna do that
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11-14-2009, 03:21 PM
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Wow, I like the potting compound idea. Actually could could seal the whole light in potting compound, but changing the light bulb would be a B*tch. Enough engineer bashing.
I have decided not to tape the wire nuts. The connectors are sufficient to hold since I tighten them until they scream.
Lets end this thread!
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11-15-2009, 03:40 PM
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Aren't the black wire nuts high temp?
I was taught to use those in HID and incandescent ceiling fixtures.
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11-21-2009, 03:50 AM
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door jam switch
whats with door jam switches,,,every thing about them gets on my nerves,,first they will be covered up then they are metel ,,have no room in them , an acceptable connector gets in the way or its costly,,you need to tape the terminals its probably gonna short out and the ground screw that comes with it never goes in its place without hassle....is there a good reason no one makes a better one thats plastic..
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11-21-2009, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zen
whats with door jam switches,,,every thing about them gets on my nerves,,first they will be covered up then they are metel ,,have no room in them , an acceptable connector gets in the way or its costly,,you need to tape the terminals its probably gonna short out and the ground screw that comes with it never goes in its place without hassle....is there a good reason no one makes a better one thats plastic..
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Holy thread hijack batman!
Here's my suggestion, stop using them, use this instead:
http://www.hankselectric.net/detail.aspx?ID=1087
TimeSaver Model CR-120V (there is also a 20 amp version)
It's a relay, mounted at the fixture. small low voltage wires are run to an alarm contact.
Just don't use the other one, called a Betterswitch. They are unreliable and not UL tested.
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11-21-2009, 06:17 PM
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You only tape your wire nuts, if you dont know how to splice. If you make a good splice, the nut should fit fine.
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