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08-29-2010, 09:37 PM
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Good at being Evil
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Commercial steel stud romex installation
So am i a hack? I made some good money with a cheap bid. 
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08-29-2010, 09:39 PM
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I have a black cat.
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No mc cable?
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I don't like to Save time and money.
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08-29-2010, 09:39 PM
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If you made money, that is what it's all about. I wouldn't consider you a hack based on the information that I have.
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08-29-2010, 09:43 PM
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Good at being Evil
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudeboy
No mc cable?
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No mc ....12/2 romex and front strap P&S plastic boxes , some pvc sleeving over the cieling level and emt work on top of the partitions for 277v lighting. Did the rough in 1 1/2 days complete. pulled $7500 on the rough using only about $500 in material.
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08-29-2010, 09:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shockdoc
No mc ....12/2 romex and front strap P&S plastic boxes , some pvc sleeving over the cieling level and emt work on top of the partitions for 277v lighting. Did the rough in 1 1/2 days complete. pulled $7500 on the rough using only about $500 in material.
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If it was a safe and legal install...congratulations.
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08-29-2010, 09:52 PM
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I have a black cat.
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Well, if you don't violate 334.12...
I've never roped a commercial building with nm but I've run it through metal studs before.
What did you use to secure the romex on the studs?
... and any photos handy?
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08-29-2010, 10:07 PM
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ET Road Warrior
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I do it when ever I can.. much faster than MC 
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08-29-2010, 10:08 PM
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Chief Electron Relocator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shockdoc
No mc ....12/2 romex and front strap P&S plastic boxes , some pvc sleeving over the cieling level and emt work on top of the partitions for 277v lighting. Did the rough in 1 1/2 days complete. pulled $7500 on the rough using only about $500 in material.
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Good thing you didn't say Carlon boxes. Then you would be branded a Hack for Life.
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In winter, why do we try to keep the house as warm as it was in summer when we complained about the heat?
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08-29-2010, 10:11 PM
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ET Road Warrior
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 480sparky
Good thing you didn't say Carlon boxes. Then you would be branded a Hack for Life. |
Good to see your finally catching on with the program
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08-29-2010, 10:37 PM
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Good at being Evil
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudeboy
Well, if you don't violate 334.12...
I've never roped a commercial building with nm but I've run it through metal studs before.
What did you use to secure the romex on the studs?
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I'm kind of a fabricater, I drill two 1/4" holes about 3/4" apart and slip a wire tie through the stud to secure my romex, I space them 6" from box,3' and so forth.
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08-29-2010, 10:39 PM
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Chief Electron Relocator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Black4Truck
Good to see your finally catching on with the program |
You'll notice I never say I'm still using Carlon boxes any more on the forum.
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In winter, why do we try to keep the house as warm as it was in summer when we complained about the heat?
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08-29-2010, 10:40 PM
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I have a black cat.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shockdoc
I'm kind of a fabricater, I drill two 1/4" holes about 3/4" apart and slip a wire tie through the stud to secure my romex, I space them 6" from box,3' and so forth.
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I have the feeling inspectors here would sh!t a brick over that installation.
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08-29-2010, 10:41 PM
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I have a black cat.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 480sparky
You'll notice I never say I'm still using Carlon boxes any more on the forum.
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But you still are. Everyone uses them, even B4T.
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08-29-2010, 10:42 PM
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Good at being Evil
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Black4Truck
I do it when ever I can.. much faster than MC |
You aint kidding , I wasn't expecting to finish up a 1/2 day early with the amount of space and devices we roughed in. Even the emt work for the lighting went fast. I will be using mc to loop out the lay in lighting since each office and area has one lighting box and the sub cieling is 12' above the susp. ceiling.
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08-29-2010, 10:44 PM
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Good at being Evil
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudeboy
I have the feeling inspectors here would sh!t a brick over that installation.
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What would they like to see? Inspectors here appreciate wire ties since most hacks either electric tape in or use nothing at all..
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08-29-2010, 10:46 PM
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Good at being Evil
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Black4Truck
Good to see your finally catching on with the program |
Are the Carlon screw depth adjustment boxes emempt? I tend to use those on all kitchen and bathroom backsplash applications.
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08-29-2010, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudeboy
What did you use to secure the romex on the studs?
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They also sell zip ties with a 1/8" eye you can put a screw through or 1/4" & 3/8" plastic clips work just as good
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08-29-2010, 10:49 PM
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An 11" tie wrap will make it around the stud and cable fine unless one side is rocked or something else is in the way.
FWIW the tie wraps with eyelets are expensive.
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08-29-2010, 10:49 PM
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I have a black cat.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shockdoc
What would they like to see? Inspectors here appreciate wire ties since most hacks either electric tape in or use nothing at all..
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Oh I have no idea, something listed most likely. NM straps probably. I've used them when I ran NM in metal studs in the past and never have been called on it.
It's kinda rare for me to do that.
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08-29-2010, 10:53 PM
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Good at being Evil
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Badger
An 11" tie wrap will make it around the stud and cable fine unless one side is rocked or something else is in the way.
FWIW the tie wraps with eyelets are expensive.
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The two holes take 20 seconds to drill and hold the wire(s) center of the stud.
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