Standing up a 20' steel pole - Page 3 - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum

erics37 · 06-02-2009, 02:38 AM

I would absolutely discourage you from doing any sort of pole work with a scissor lift.

A couple guys that worked at my shop had a reaaaaaaaally bad accident doing that exact thing. Journeyman and apprentice, outside in an outdoor-type scissor lift, fairly flat parking lot. I wasn't there so I don't know what exactly they were doing, but they were 25 - 30' up and somehow the lift tipped over sideways. One of them bailed out and broke both his legs - two years later he's still undergoing surgeries and physical therapy. The other guy hung on but he broke his arm pretty bad and worse, suffered a severe concussion and sustained a bit of brain damage. He has minimal motor control in one of his hands.

Neither of them are expected to make a 100% recovery or return to electrical work (or any other physical career).

william1978 · 10-04-2009, 10:05 AM

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This thing works great on top of a parking deck where you can't get a lull or a bucket truck.

Here a some pictures that I took when setting some poles on top of a parking deck.

480sparky · 10-04-2009, 10:11 AM

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Here a some pictures that I took when setting some poles on top of a parking deck.

I thought PoleJaks could only be used on round piers.

Black4Truck · 10-04-2009, 10:17 AM

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I thought PoleJaks could only be used on round piers.

Those pics are almost (3) years old, maybe the specs changed to "round only"

2.7 years for those nit- pickers

480sparky · 10-04-2009, 10:19 AM

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Those pics are almost (3) years old, maybe the specs changed to "round only" .....

Could be as they determined the straps tended to fail on corners?

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.............2.7 years for those nit- pickers

I come up with 2.584538219. Did you divide by 350?

william1978 · 10-04-2009, 10:21 AM

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I thought PoleJaks could only be used on round piers.

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Those pics are almost (3) years old, maybe the specs changed to "round only"

2.7 years for those nit- pickers

I just was looking for the directions for that lift on the internet, but couldn't find them.

william1978 · 10-04-2009, 10:22 AM

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Could be as they determined the straps tended to fail on corners?

We did have some movement with those poles, but not that much we just tightened the straps a little more.

william1978 · 10-04-2009, 10:25 AM

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I come up with 2.584538219. Did you divide by 350?

Black4Truck · 10-04-2009, 10:26 AM

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Could be as they determined the straps tended to fail on corners?

I come up with 2.584538219. Did you divide by 350?

No... I just counted my fingers

480sparky · 10-04-2009, 10:32 AM

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There's 944 days between 3/5/2007 and today. Divide that by 365.249 (sidereal days).

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No... I just counted my fingers

You must have a lot of fingers. Naked, I can only count to 20½.

Bob Badger · 10-04-2009, 10:37 AM

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Naked, I can only count to 20½.

Apparently your nick name, 'The Tool' is a misnomer.

Black4Truck · 10-04-2009, 10:37 AM

sidereal day
n. The time required for a complete rotation of the earth in reference to any star or to the vernal equinox at the meridian, equal to 23 hours, 56 minutes, 4.09 seconds in units of mean solar time.

Was this necessary??

william1978 · 10-04-2009, 10:49 AM

I sure am glad we got this sidereal day thing down now.

480sparky · 10-04-2009, 10:51 AM

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sidereal day
n. The time required for a complete rotation of the earth in reference to any star or to the vernal equinox at the meridian, equal to 23 hours, 56 minutes, 4.09 seconds in units of mean solar time.

Was this necessary??

Yes, because if a sidereal day was exactly 24 hours, we wouldn't have leap years.

Black4Truck · 10-04-2009, 10:53 AM

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I sure am glad we got this sidereal day thing down now.

I never knew that word existed.. I didn't want to seem "simple minded'

william1978 · 10-04-2009, 10:55 AM

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I never knew that word existed.. I didn't want to seem "simple minded'

I never heard it till today myself.

Black4Truck · 10-04-2009, 11:00 AM

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Yes, because if a sidereal day was exactly 24 hours, we wouldn't have leap years.

Oh yes.. leap year is very important

I have to wait (4) years for an extra day to pay the bills

vinny · 10-06-2009, 07:26 PM

why not just lift the pole with the lift and control it from the ground. All the lifts i have seen have controls from the ground. Rig it up, get it into position, get OFF, lift it from the ground and set it over the bolts and drop it on. Atleast if it looks unstable you dont have to ride it down to disaster. Just a suggestion for next time.

william1978 · 10-06-2009, 09:34 PM

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why not just lift the pole with the lift and control it from the ground. All the lifts i have seen have controls from the ground. Rig it up, get it into position, get OFF, lift it from the ground and set it over the bolts and drop it on. Atleast if it looks unstable you dont have to ride it down to disaster. Just a suggestion for next time.

What kind of lift are you talking about and can you use that lift as a crane safely?

woodchuck2 · 10-06-2009, 09:58 PM

I have never seen one of those polejacks before, look handy though. I have only set one pole light so far but i chose to use my mini-ex to set it. I ratchet strapped the light to the side of the stick, lift it with the main boom and swing the stick in as it goes up. Works slick. I use the mini-ex for setting the 30'+ utility poles too.