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Celtic · 02-20-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfs2000

This has turned into quite a joke...

As it should be

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Originally Posted by fnfs2000

Seriously, mount a scrap pipe on your garage wall with straps upside down and pull on it. The straps fail extremely easily.

Then try it rightside up and the pipe will not budge.(other that normal flex or bending depending on the size of the pipe)

Seriously...provide documentation from a mfg. stating that screw up/down is the correct method.

BTW, my pizza and salad are here

JohnJ0906 · 02-20-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfs2000

This has turned into quite a joke...

Seriously, mount a scrap pipe on your garage wall with straps upside down and pull on it. The straps fail extremely easily.

Then try it rightside up and the pipe will not budge.(other that normal flex or bending depending on the size of the pipe)

I don't agree there is a "right side up" or "up side down".

I alternate mine.

I am curious, as to what the manufacterer was that you saw the cut sheet for.

BryanMD · 02-20-2009, 06:01 PM

When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmmm, boy. -- Jack Handy

Bkessler · 02-20-2009, 06:16 PM

This has bee an extremely informative thread, lot better than the crappy posts I start. I can't wait for desert, dessert?

Celtic · 02-20-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bkessler

This has bee an extremely informative thread, lot better than the crappy posts I start. I can't wait for desert, dessert?

Ice cream cake, choc. chip cookies, and brownies

Did I mention there is a party in progress over here?

fnfs2000 · 02-20-2009, 06:34 PM

you guys are a joke.

Kletis · 02-20-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Celtic

Ice cream cake, choc. chip cookies, and brownies

Did I mention there is a party in progress over here?

All this meat, peanut butter, jelly, pizza, etc...talk is making me hungry!!! I ate at the Oh Gee for lunch (O.G.= Olive Garden) Always A good choice, but I think I might have to go buy the stuff to make a pb&j milkshake tonight!!!!

Kurtis

brian john · 02-20-2009, 06:40 PM

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Screws on top according to MFG data sheets I was shown years ago when I was an apprentice. The boss put a ladder next to a run I was working on and stepped on it and the staps folded over and I had to redo it. A week later he showed me some spec sheet.

Since then I've done several tear out remodels, and its pretty obvious which method comes undone easier.

There is currently no code on this that I am aware of, its just a matter of following mfg suggested practice.

And if run on the ceiling you can hang your clothes from them. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE the manufactures data says this. There is no way the NEC or the manufacture will account for stupidity.

AND I BET you $100.00 if Phat Elvis stood on a 1/2" emt supported with straps hole down the EMT, straps and wall it is attached to will fall down.

brian john · 02-20-2009, 06:40 PM

Anybody got some crackers and some PB and HONEY.

Bkessler · 02-20-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by brian john

Anybody got some crackers and some PB and HONEY.

PB and honey on toast mmmmmmmm.

Celtic · 02-20-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfs2000

you guys are a joke.

No, you are.

Now don't go taking it all sorts of personal....but you opened the door with your lead post:

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Its amazing how many conduit runs I see in buildings with the one hole straps upside down.

...and then continue the nonsense with the logic there might be some "controversy"

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.. I wrote about a halfway contravercial topic ....

...when asked to back up your claim, you couldn't

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Originally Posted by fnfs2000

Screws on top according to MFG data sheets... its just a matter of following mfg suggested practice.

...and you just continue w/o any sort of backup to make your case

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Originally Posted by fnfs2000

This has turned into quite a joke...

Seriously, mount a scrap pipe on your garage wall with straps upside down and pull on it. The straps fail extremely easily.

Then try it rightside up and the pipe will not budge.(other that normal flex or bending depending on the size of the pipe)

Next time, try posting something you actually know the answer to instead of trying to start an argument you are unprepared to handle.
I would have suggested the next post be something you don't know about or are curious about....but apparently, you think you know it all.

You and donfta should hook and talk about....well something or another, the less you know about the topic - the better.

BTW, coffee is on if anyone is interested.

Celtic · 02-20-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brian john

AND I BET you $100.00 if Phat Elvis stood on a 1/2" emt supported with straps hole down the EMT, straps and wall it is attached to will fall down.

I'd have to red tag Phat Elvis for a 110.3(B) violation

480sparky · 02-20-2009, 07:22 PM

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you guys are a joke.

Wow. I'm gone just 3 hours and you guys had dinner without me. Thanks!

Don't take it personally, fnfs. It's Friday. The Eagle shíts today for many of these guys, and it's time to let of some steam. All we're saying is that we've never heard of such a requirement, can't find any documentation of it, and all you have is "I saw it years ago as an apprentice." Not much to back you up, really.

Loosen up, stick around, and we all are here to learn.

Any pizza left?

Celtic · 02-20-2009, 07:36 PM

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Wow. I'm gone just 3 hours and you guys had dinner without me. Thanks!

Sorry bro., wasn't my call....the 9 yr. old is in charge [her b-day party]

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Any pizza left?

Some Domino's [again, the 9 yr old]...the real pizza was eaten by the adults.

TheRick · 02-20-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfs2000

This has turned into quite a joke...

Seriously, mount a scrap pipe on your garage wall with straps upside down and pull on it. The straps fail extremely easily.

Then try it rightside up and the pipe will not budge.(other that normal flex or bending depending on the size of the pipe)

Now take your "right side up" pipe and put some upward force on it....oh wow same reuslt huh? Not all forces are downward, especially in an Industrial environment, which is why I have always alternated my straps on both horizontal and vertical runs. You never know what direction a conduit may get pushed or pulled.

brian john · 02-21-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bkessler

PB and honey on toast mmmmmmmm.

Creamy and dripping DURN I am hungry

Then there is real butter and honey on toast. Now that's good.

Or cinnamon toast.

And on a serious note, I think I asked some intelligent questions and received no responses.

I am going to make some waffles with butter and maple syrup.

Rockyd · 02-21-2009, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Celtic

I want a sandwich.

Totally off topic....I'm just saying.
Do you want that before or after the pie?

Wouldn't want you to spoil dessert.

Don't be a fool!

Listen to my sister!

She says -

Eat your dessert first, might not be around for the second course....

MDShunk · 02-21-2009, 04:59 PM

Silly me. I thought that jiffy clips were to hold the pipe up. I wasn't aware that we're supposed to install pipe so foremen can use them for monkey bars.

480sparky · 02-21-2009, 05:08 PM

Note to self: 1-hole straps don't work..... submit proposal at next code cycle to make them verboten.

Marc: Where's Do-Re-Mi?

MDShunk · 02-21-2009, 05:12 PM

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Marc: Where's Do-Re-Mi?

Then I'd have more than Paul Abernathy, and we can't have that. I figured I'd add a few nonsense things after my name, since he's go so much crap after his name. I'm guessing he's got an unusually small penis. That's really the only reason I can think of to put so many letters after your name on a forum site.