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08-02-2011, 08:22 PM
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bare neutral return to POCO transformers.
I did my first one today, and I don't really understand how a bare neutral is ok. Won't electricity leak out into the enclosure? I'm trying to post a picture but it's not happening.
My boss says it's ok, but I've never worked with unisulated neutrals before.
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08-02-2011, 08:24 PM
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OH MY GRAVY! "electricity leak out into the enclosure?" mods must have been paid off to let this guy stick around...
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08-02-2011, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kaboler
I did my first one today, and I don't really understand how a bare neutral is ok. Won't electricity leak out into the enclosure? I'm trying to post a picture but it's not happening.
My boss says it's ok, but I've never worked with unisulated neutrals before.
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It won't leak out if you put silicone around it. 
It's ok, no different than bonding it to the can anyway.
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08-02-2011, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kaboler
I did my first one today, and I don't really understand how a bare neutral is ok. Won't electricity leak out into the enclosure? I'm trying to post a picture but it's not happening.
My boss says it's ok, but I've never worked with unisulated neutrals before.
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If it is before the service DICO then it is good.
Remember it is the grounded conductor. 
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08-02-2011, 08:26 PM
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08-02-2011, 08:26 PM
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OH MY GRAVY! "electricity leak out into the enclosure?"
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How about 'Return'?
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08-02-2011, 08:27 PM
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Quote:
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OH MY GRAVY! "electricity leak out into the enclosure?" mods must have been paid off to let this guy stick around...
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I'm a licenced electrical apprentice ty.
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08-02-2011, 08:28 PM
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If it is before the service DICO then it is good.
Remember it is the grounded conductor. |
True but it'll carry amperage and voltage, why wouldn't it travel through grounded enclosure boxes and such.
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08-02-2011, 08:29 PM
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I'm a licenced electrical apprentice ty.
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a "licensed apprentice" that sounds ass backwards.
I still think the mods are blind to certain trolls...
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08-02-2011, 08:30 PM
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a "licensed apprentice" that sounds ass backwards.
I still think the mods are blind to certain trolls...
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participate or get out.
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08-02-2011, 08:30 PM
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Quote:
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True but it'll carry amperage and voltage, why wouldn't it travel through grounded enclosure boxes and such.
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It will, to some extent. That neutral block in the meter is usually electrically connected to the enclosure. It is used as the grounding means of the meter socket.
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08-02-2011, 08:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kaboler
I did my first one today, and I don't really understand how a bare neutral is ok. Won't electricity leak out into the enclosure? I'm trying to post a picture but it's not happening.
My boss says it's ok, but I've never worked with unisulated neutrals before.
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The neutral in a meter is bonded to the can so it would make no difference.
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08-02-2011, 08:31 PM
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Quote:
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True but it'll carry amperage and voltage, why wouldn't it travel through grounded enclosure boxes and such.
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It will they are grounded as well.
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08-02-2011, 08:31 PM
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participate or get out.
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go pound sand.. you arent the owner of this place.
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08-02-2011, 08:36 PM
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Ok it all makes sense ty all. BTW you all like my work? I did the wiring. Any improvements let me know. I tried my best. The Aluminum got oxidiation prevention liquid stuff on it.
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08-02-2011, 11:32 PM
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Quote:
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Ok it all makes sense ty all. BTW you all like my work? I did the wiring. Any improvements let me know. I tried my best. The Aluminum got oxidiation prevention liquid stuff on it.
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Are you for real?
Don't go away mad. JUST GO AWAY!
PLEASE.
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08-02-2011, 11:36 PM
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That stuff with the bare copper neutral looks like SEU cable, but they don't have that in Canada. Is it some kind of direct burial cable?
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08-02-2011, 11:43 PM
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You think a bare neutral is bad, wait till you see an old commercial service with NO neutral going back to the poco
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08-03-2011, 07:18 AM
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Quote:
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That stuff with the bare copper neutral looks like SEU cable, but they don't have that in Canada. Is it some kind of direct burial cable?
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Up here, it has the designation of USEB , used for underground services.
Most of the time underground triplex ( USEI) is used.
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08-03-2011, 08:18 AM
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You aren't required to put bushings on the entrance feeders? Just the load?
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