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Old 01-06-2017, 10:11 AM   #1
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I'm looking through the code and I can only find codes on receptacles & switches near a sink.

I have a 600v 30A disconnect and a motor starter. The facility installed a sink a foot away. It seams ok to me, what do you guys think?


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Old 01-06-2017, 10:31 AM   #2
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The problem is not electrical...somebody else installed a sink after the fact.
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The problem is not electrical...somebody else installed a sink after the fact.


I was half way finished the job and I left for a few days to go to another job. I came back to find the sink installed. Electrically speaking I'm looking at the code issues, not the plumbers.


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Plumber's problem
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Is that in the CSA too?
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I'll try saying that to ESA, followed by me spitting some chewing tobacco on his feet.


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You are installing switches. What is the difference if you install a switch near a sink?
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Can't think of a code that says we must keep clear of a sink?
Receptacles near sink 26-700(11)
lighting equipment in damp locations (switches) 30-320(3)
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I got trapped by an inspector once with a panel in a laundry room. On final inspection he said the panel was too close to the sink. I asked him for a code reference and he gave me "poor workmanship". I couldn't argue with him because he was the only inspector in town. That was an expensive fix.
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The code ref's provided by others above are related but IMO don't directly
apply to this situation. However, even without specific rules disallowing this
location, it's certainly questionable. @Blitzer 's initial post suggests to me
that he's not that happy with the location and wouldn't have put it there
had he known the sink was going in.
I guess the prudent thing to do is to call the inspector, explain the situation,
and see what he says.......Either that or just move it and feel better.....
As far as the code goes, inspector can fail pretty much anything using 2-112
if he/she feels that it's clearly bad practice but was missed in the code
because it can't cover every situation.
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The code ref's provided by others above are related but IMO don't directly
apply to this situation. However, even without specific rules disallowing this
location, it's certainly questionable. @Blitzer 's initial post suggests to me
that he's not that happy with the location and wouldn't have put it there
had he known the sink was going in.
I guess the prudent thing to do is to call the inspector, explain the situation,
and see what he says.......Either that or just move it and feel better.....
As far as the code goes, inspector can fail pretty much anything using 2-112
if he/she feels that it's clearly bad practice but was missed in the code
because it can't cover every situation.
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didn't even know a code like 2-112 existed until i went in the code and read it, lol
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I'm looking through the code and I can only find codes on receptacles & switches near a sink.

I have a 600v 30A disconnect and a motor starter. The facility installed a sink a foot away. It seams ok to me, what do you guys think?


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So the Plans & Specifications were written on a wet napkin ?

I thought so.

You NEVER looked at the P sheets ?

Or the A sheets ?

Usually the BLOCKING for the sink makes it idiot obvious that "something wet comes this way."

BTW, switches are placed around sinks -- all-the-time.

You have a (surface mounted) switch that has some fuses. It looks weird. But, it's not a hazard.
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didn't even know a code like 2-112 existed until i went in the code and read it, lol
2-112 is NOTHING.

Wait until you run into Rule 303.

I'll let Breaker Morant explain it to you.
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You are installing switches. What is the difference if you install a switch near a sink?

I'm installing a disconnect.

The code talks about sinks and switches in relation to controlling lights. Section 30 is lighting equipment.


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