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Old 02-17-2017, 12:07 AM   #21
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Five is the answer I think.

1 for the 6-15R receptacle
1 for the heater
1 for the HWT
2 for the splits - the third split can feed off the first or second split.

Now you could put the HWT on a single pole (4500 watts is (240 volts) two pole, 1500 watts is (120 volts) single pole?) so that could bring you back to four I suspect. You also probably could say the same for the BB heater, I suspect it would be dual voltage rated, but there was only one wattage rating in the question.

I think in the "real world" most of us would have used 6 - 2 pole breakers.

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Old 02-17-2017, 12:08 AM   #22
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You ever wire like that?

No, I don't split anything other than the DW/GD recepts.
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Two splits per circuit is in residential only.
26-722(b)(i)
26-724(b)(i)

i was like what kinda code book he have:P
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26-724(b)(i)

i was like what kinda code book he have:P
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No, I don't split anything other than the DW/GD recepts.
Yeah man that is my thought.
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still seems the answer is 5 though so maybe ESAT will get back to me and inform me
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No its 4!!!

In commercial you can put up to 12 splits on one 2-pole breaker.

Read the question. It asks for the MINIMUM number of 2 pole breakers required. Of course no one would wire a room that way but they ask for the MINIMUM.
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No its 4!!!

In commercial you can put up to 12 splits on one 2-pole breaker.

Read the question. It asks for the MINIMUM number of 2 pole breakers required. Of course no one would wire a room that way but they ask for the MINIMUM.
You can but why would you?

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No its 4!!!

In commercial you can put up to 12 splits on one 2-pole breaker.

Read the question. It asks for the MINIMUM number of 2 pole breakers required. Of course no one would wire a room that way but they ask for the MINIMUM.
ah, see i didnt know that, i knew 12 receptacles could be put on a breaker i just didn't know it also applied split receptacles as well
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i got so carried away by reading all the answers i totally forgot the question since we was all brainstorming lol
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Every question is a trick. It's an English test in a lot of ways.
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Every question is a trick. It's an English test in a lot of ways.
yeah it really is
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Hey guys, as usual you're always fast to respond and always expanding my knowledge in the trade but I came upon a question in my ESAT that's left me stumped. I even talked it over with my journeyman and he was in the same boat as myself so now I'm seeking the knowledge of the elders:P

My code question goes as follows:

An electrical installation is being planned for a room in a commercial occupancy. The room is to contain the following: Wall switch to switch ten 120V, 4ft, 2-lamp fluorescent fixtures; Three 5-15R split circuit receptacles; One 240V, 3000W baseboard heater controlled by a wall thermostat; One 4500/1500W, 240V electric hot water heater One 6-15R receptacle. What is the minimum number of 2-pole circuit breakers that would be required?
a) 2
b) 3
c) 4
d) 5

I selected d) 5 because of the 3 split receptacles, the 240V baseboard heater and the 240V hot water heater. Now i know the 240V baseboard heater can be hooked up to a single pole thermostat but isn't it still required to come off a 2 pole breaker. Any help would be appreciated because i hate not knowing

The ESAT answer was c) 4
4 is what I get now. I forgot that the question was about how many 2-pole breakers.
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You can but why would you?

Canadians..........and their strange rules of engagement...
Not strange, our government under-funds, so we have to save our bullets and hit what we shoot at the first time.

I always tell people;

First thing you have to do when practicing for the ESAT is put how you SHOULD or WANT to do it in a deep dark place.
It is not a test of good practice or common sense it is a test of how well you identify key words and apply them from the code book, not real life, not intelligently but to the code book.
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