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06-22-2009, 08:08 PM
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1 riser 2 meters
i saw this the other day:
1 riser through the roof into one meter pan then into a second pan. The power co. just skinned the conductors(instead of doubling up) and passed through to the second pan...is this a violation?...
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06-22-2009, 08:20 PM
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A picture would say a thousand words here but.....
Utility companies do not have to adhere to the code as they are responsible for their wiring forever.
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06-22-2009, 08:29 PM
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my batteries went dead....
ok , ill try again.... 2 one gang meters mounted next to each other with a 2'' nipple between them....one set of wires through the riser into one meter and then into the second...no taps, just skinned back at the first and passing through the second.....
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06-22-2009, 08:36 PM
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It's the utility companies wiring - correct ?
They own it forever, no code to adhere to.
Utilities are exempt from adhering to the code.
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06-22-2009, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manchestersparky
It's the utility companies wiring - correct ?
They own it forever, no code to adhere to.
Utilities are exempt from adhering to the code.
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Utilities are exempt from using OUR code (the NEC).
They use the NESC.
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06-22-2009, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by manchestersparky
It's the utility companies wiring - correct ?
They own it forever, no code to adhere to.
Utilities are exempt from adhering to the code.
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dude, ok.........lets say YOU do it...then what?
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06-22-2009, 09:29 PM
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nobody?
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06-22-2009, 09:41 PM
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nobody?
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Present and accounted for! 
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06-22-2009, 09:55 PM
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am i explaining myself enough?....i figured you'd have something to say on this one
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06-22-2009, 09:57 PM
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am i explaining myself enough?....i figured you'd have something to say on this one
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Mebbe he's offline?
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06-22-2009, 10:04 PM
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no, YOU damnit!
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06-22-2009, 10:08 PM
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no, YOU damnit!
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Me what?
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06-22-2009, 10:29 PM
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come on...you are omnipotent, omnipresent , and some other word...you know all nec...
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06-22-2009, 11:08 PM
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come on...you are omnipotent, omnipresent , and some other word...you know all nec...
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So............ what is it you want to know?
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06-22-2009, 11:22 PM
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uhhhh.well refer to one of those posts...is it a violation or not?
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06-22-2009, 11:32 PM
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uhhhh.well refer to one of those posts...is it a violation or not?
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Depends on the size of the wire, rating of the meter sockets, and the size of the two OCDs.
Many meter sockets have lay-in terminals for just such an installation.
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06-22-2009, 11:35 PM
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Skinned mid-conductor is still "one conductor per terminal". That's kinda one of the nice things about lay-in terminals.
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06-22-2009, 11:42 PM
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Quote:
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Skinned mid-conductor is still "one conductor per terminal". That's kinda one of the nice things about lay-in terminals.
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yes, i was considering that....and yes 480 lets say its 2 135 amp pans...and the connected load of both panels exceeds that, then it would be a violation
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06-22-2009, 11:44 PM
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yes, i was considering that....and yes 480 lets say its 2 135 amp pans...and the connected load of both panels exceeds that, then it would be a violation
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135 amp equipment? Where did that number come from?
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06-22-2009, 11:45 PM
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...every "100 amp" meter pan i have ever bought said it was good for 135 amps on the sticker....disregard that # then
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