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04-22-2012, 09:58 PM
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California nec code
Ive been doing electrical for a while and wonder if any one knows why california is always 3 years behind on the electrical code cycle? Also wondering if any of other states are like this, or if its just a california thing
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04-22-2012, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKEFLASH
Ive been doing electrical for a while and wonder if any one knows why california is always 3 years behind on the electrical code cycle? Also wondering if any of other states are like this, or if its just a california thing
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The reason being is the state needs time to go over the NEC and make their own changes/amendments. Don't complain. When it's time to purchase your 2011 NEC, it will be around November of 2013. On eBay you can get a really cheap 2011 along with a code changes book for less than a new 2011 costs new.
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04-22-2012, 10:23 PM
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At the rate the NFPA is selling BS in its code, I wish they were 10 years behind.
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04-22-2012, 10:32 PM
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Most of that BS increases the price of the install. Shouldn't that equal an increase in profits?
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04-22-2012, 11:05 PM
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Not complaining about it just wondering about it thanks ..... Any other states where ya guys work behind also?
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04-23-2012, 08:28 PM
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I worked in 2 places last year that were still on 2002.
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04-23-2012, 10:15 PM
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Wow 2002 thats crazy
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04-23-2012, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKEFLASH
Wow 2002 thats crazy
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Got alot of 2002 era houses / buildings burning up down there?
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04-24-2012, 01:41 AM
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Most code adoptions by states have to do with money. We are still on 2008 and adopted that late do to state budget issues, they could not or did not want to pay the cost of review and prep for the new adoption.
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04-24-2012, 10:02 AM
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This is not quite true, Ca was 2 cycles behind before the ICC Code even existed. I am fine with the time frame they take to adopt the new code, it gives us a chance to see what gets changed or removed. When something is added in 2008 then removed in 20011, you can take the newer code that is yet to be enforced and argue that a code should not be enforced. It also saved me thousands of dollars on AFCI breakers.
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04-27-2012, 01:52 AM
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Nevermind what code cycle they're on, seems like every different city I have worked in around the Bay Area has their own stupid "local amendments" to the NEC you have to worry about, and that's all they care about to sign you off...
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04-27-2012, 11:12 AM
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Nevermind what code cycle they're on, seems like every different city I have worked in around the Bay Area has their own stupid "local amendments" to the NEC you have to worry about, and that's all they care about to sign you off...
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You gotta ask when you start, I live in the bay area and have worked here for 30 + years and every once in a while I get some stupid "city amendment" throwing a loop in the works. Some are especially lame, like Pacifica has a code "no NM smaller than #12", So even if you are running LED recess lights and your circuit load is minimal, maybe 4 amps, you have to use 12-2, do a whole house and it can double your wire cost.
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04-27-2012, 11:15 AM
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You gotta ask when you start, I live in the bay area and have worked here for 30 + years and every once in a while I get some stupid "city amendment" throwing a loop in the works. Some are especially lame, like Pacifica has a code "no NM smaller than #12", So even if you are running LED recess lights and your circuit load is minimal, maybe 4 amps, you have to use 12-2, do a whole house and it can double your wire cost.
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Don't you just love fitting those #12's in the can j-boxes ? 
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04-27-2012, 06:34 PM
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Wisconsin is still on the 08 code. Met with the state inspector and it doesn't sound like we'll be on the 11 code until next year some time. Something about legislature being out for the rest of the year because of election year. Too much red tape.
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04-27-2012, 10:18 PM
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Wisconsin is still on the 08 code. Met with the state inspector and it doesn't sound like we'll be on the 11 code until next year some time. Something about legislature being out for the rest of the year because of election year. Too much red tape.
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It's the cheese.
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04-27-2012, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKEFLASH
Ive been doing electrical for a while and wonder if any one knows why california is always 3 years behind on the electrical code cycle? Also wondering if any of other states are like this, or if its just a california thing
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04-27-2012, 10:28 PM
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AHHHHHHH!!!!!!! HOW DARE YOU USE LANGUAGE LIKE THAT IN A PUBLIC FORUM. You should be banned. Be careful, if you say her name 3 times your bank account will disapear and you taxes double.
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05-19-2012, 10:13 AM
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What sucks for our industry, is that 2011 adopted a major change for exempting bonding of dead metal parts Ina class 2 system, but if our AHJ haven't adopted it, they don't need to account for it.
as far as I know, CA just adopted 2008,
We won't see 2011 for about 3 more years.
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05-19-2012, 07:02 PM
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California thing
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Originally Posted by MIKEFLASH
Ive been doing electrical for a while and wonder if any one knows why california is always 3 years behind on the electrical code cycle? Also wondering if any of other states are like this, or if its just a california thing
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It takes time to translate the NEC , too many languages !
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