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05-18-2010, 02:45 PM
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child please.....
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Feed thru panels...
Do you guys consider one of those main breaker panels with feed thru lugs to be a "feeder tap"?....I say yes....This came up today, just curious what you guys say.
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05-18-2010, 03:06 PM
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Ax grinder
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That would depend on the size of the conductors that are connected to the feed through lugs.
If the conductors are rated at least the ampacity of the main breaker it would not be a feeder tap.
Chris
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05-18-2010, 03:08 PM
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child please.....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raider1
That would depend on the size of the conductors that are connected to the feed through lugs.
If the conductors are rated at least the ampacity of the main breaker it would not be a feeder tap.
Chris
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Ahhh...That makes sense...Thanks  BTW, the feeder is smaller than 200 amp wire.
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05-18-2010, 03:24 PM
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Ax grinder
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Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
Ahhh...That makes sense...Thanks BTW, the feeder is smaller than 200 amp wire. |
If the conductors connected to the feed through lugs have a lesser ampacity then the main breaker you would need to use one of the tap rules to provide overcurrent protection for the feeder conductors.
Chris
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05-18-2010, 03:29 PM
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child please.....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raider1
If the conductors connected to the feed through lugs have a lesser ampacity then the main breaker you would need to use one of the tap rules to provide overcurrent protection for the feeder conductors.
Chris
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Yeah, it's 2/0 al protected by a 200 amp main breaker...I would have to provide OCP at the tap....I also think it's over 25 feet inside of the residence...
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05-18-2010, 03:38 PM
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Ax grinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
Yeah, it's 2/0 al protected by a 200 amp main breaker...I would have to provide OCP at the tap....I also think it's over 25 feet inside of the residence...
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That could be a problem.
Also remember that the tap conductors must be protected from physical damage by being installed in a raceway or by other approved means to comply with the 25 foot tap rule.
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05-18-2010, 03:45 PM
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child please.....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raider1
That could be a problem.
Also remember that the tap conductors must be protected from physical damage by being installed in a raceway or by other approved means to comply with the 25 foot tap rule.
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I'm not positive, but I believe it's over 25 feet. That's just the amount of the tap that runs inside , right?....If its say 10 feet outside and 20 feet inside am I ok?....Also, this is SER cable inside the walls...not subject to physical damage.
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05-18-2010, 03:51 PM
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Ax grinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
I'm not positive, but I believe it's over 25 feet. That's just the amount of the tap that runs inside , right?....If its say 10 feet outside and 20 feet inside am I ok?....Also, this is SER cable inside the walls...not subject to physical damage.
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Actually the length is the total lenght of the tap conductors from the point of origin (Feed thru lugs) to the point where it terminates at a single overcurrent protective device. It seems to me that the conductors are longer than 25 feet.
Also 240.21(B)(2)(3) is specific that the feeder be installed in a raceway or be protected from damage by other approved means. This requirement is above and beyond the typical protection from physical damage due to the fact that the conductors are not being protected by an overcurrent device at the beginning of the feeder.
Chris
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05-18-2010, 03:53 PM
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child please.....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raider1
Actually the length is the total lenght of the tap conductors from the point of origin (Feed thru lugs) to the point where it terminates at a single overcurrent protective device. It seems to me that the conductors are longer than 25 feet.
Also 240.21(B)(2)(3) is specific that the feeder be installed in a raceway or be protected from damage by other approved means. This requirement is above and beyond the typical protection from physical damage due to the fact that the conductors are not being protected by an overcurrent device at the beginning of the feeder.
Chris
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Ok, then I would say that is over 25 feet....Also, are you saying that it being installed in a raceway is mandatory?
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05-18-2010, 04:00 PM
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Ax grinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
Ok, then I would say that is over 25 feet....Also, are you saying that it being installed in a raceway is mandatory?
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Either install the feeder tap in a raceway or find another approved means of protecting the feeder conductors from physical damage.
Chris
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05-18-2010, 04:03 PM
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child please.....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raider1
Either install the feeder tap in a raceway or find another approved means of protecting the feeder conductors from physical damage.
Chris
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I'll probably just make it a feeder....Thanks Chris
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05-18-2010, 04:07 PM
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Ax grinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
I'll probably just make it a feeder....Thanks Chris |
Your very welcome. 
Chris
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