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Microwave or hood vent. The contractor isn't sure if he will put a microwave over the stove so to be safe we dedicated a run.
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Does the local AHJ allow #14 wire ?
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04-22-2012, 04:30 PM
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Does the local AHJ allow #14 wire ?
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I know this is crazy to y'all but I run everything 12. No 14 at all beside for under the cabinet lights. Sometimes floods damn wrong pic sorry
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04-22-2012, 04:45 PM
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Take the garage door out and frame it up and now they have a refrigerator room.
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04-22-2012, 04:47 PM
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I know this is crazy to y'all but I run everything 12. No 14 at all beside for under the cabinet lights. Sometimes floods damn wrong pic sorry
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That picture makes me wanna PUKE
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04-22-2012, 04:54 PM
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I know this is crazy to y'all but I run everything 12. No 14 at all
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Yeah, that is pretty messed up. 
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04-22-2012, 05:11 PM
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Shrimp juice is the choice of smell good down here. Put a little on and head down the bayou and be ready to kiss some girls.
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Then you yell "choot em Lizabeth"
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04-22-2012, 05:15 PM
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That picture makes me wanna PUKE
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Because of all the 12s or thinking of having to trim it out?
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04-22-2012, 05:46 PM
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That pic is terrible. I feel bad for who ever has to terminate that. Man oh man.
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04-22-2012, 06:07 PM
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Because of all the 12s or thinking of having to trim it out?
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both. And that would not pass inspection here
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04-22-2012, 06:12 PM
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I know this is crazy to y'all but I run everything 12. No 14 at all beside for under the cabinet lights. Sometimes floods damn wrong pic sorry
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Holy ****ing **** batman, I just counted your conductors and you need a box with 103.25 cu in for that mess you got there. What is that box 65???????????????????
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04-22-2012, 06:26 PM
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Definite failure here.
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04-22-2012, 06:43 PM
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Holy ****ing **** batman, I just counted your conductors and you need a box with 103.25 cu in for that mess you got there. What is that box 65???????????????????
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But doesn't he get points for the 12? I think the wire up size cancels the box fill. Wait I'll find it in the code. Hang on, I'm still looking. If 12 is better, why not 10(best)?
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...I just counted your conductors and you need a box with 103.25 cu in....
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 I get 60.75" for eight #12's and five devices....
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04-22-2012, 06:58 PM
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I'm a #14 man, the only #12 I run is either what is minimum code or called for by load requirements.
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04-22-2012, 07:03 PM
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Holy ****ing **** batman, I just counted your conductors and you need a box with 103.25 cu in for that mess you got there. What is that box 65???????????????????
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That's why I had that pic I took it to show one of my guys that he had too many wires in the box. He did FEEL like making up j boxes so he brought all the wires down. If I remember he has two hots two floods front porch foyer and kit. Way to many wires. When I hit the wrong pic I know I would get called out on it. But that was about six months ago and was fixed that morning
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04-22-2012, 07:06 PM
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That's why I had that pic I took it to show one of my guys that he had too many wires in the box. He did FEEL like making up j boxes so he brought all the wires down. If I remember he has two hots two floods front porch foyer and kit. Way to many wires. When I hit the wrong pic I know I would get called out on it. But that was about six months ago and was fixed that morning
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Ways to eliminate box crowding is using 3 wire as switchlegs and branching out to 2 wire. I'll often end up with 3 gang boxes with only 3 cables in them.
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04-22-2012, 08:48 PM
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Not readily accessible? Then behind the refrigerator should be just fine..
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the rec. is not behind the fridge it is in open sight this is where the grey area of the code crosses me up -the fridge by the way is for sprouts or cuttings or something like that
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04-22-2012, 09:04 PM
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looks like 9 nm's assume one is a 12/3
19x2.25=42.75
grounds=2.25
devices=8x2.25=18
no clamps seen in box
total 63 now granted it's late and i haven't done box fill in a while
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04-22-2012, 09:35 PM
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I think a four gang box is around sixty.
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