480sparky

Just a note to any Iowa Sparkys:

the Iowa Electrical Board will hold a special meeting Monday, Oct 27th at 10AM to adopt the 2008 NEC. Three possible changes are to be considered:

210.08 Expanded use of GFI protection
210.12 Expanded use of AFCI protection
406.11 Tamper-Resistant Receptacles.

Take notice, and govern yourselves accordingly.

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In winter, why do we try to keep the house as warm as it was in summer when we complained about the heat?

JohnJ0906

Are they considering amending those sections?

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John from Baltimore
"One day at a Time"
All responses based on the '08 NEC
It's not my fault, it's not my problem, I'm not your solution.

gilbequick

And bid jobs accordingly. If not you could eat a VERY large bill you didn't intend to pay for .

480sparky

Yes.

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In winter, why do we try to keep the house as warm as it was in summer when we complained about the heat?

itsunclebill

Tamperproof receptacles aren't really a big deal in my book, they cost about what I spent anyway - a buck or so. Tamperproof GFCI receptacles are about $21.00 vs $8.00 for standard - way out of reason IMHO. P&S does meet the wetherproof requirement with theirs though - - - but over twice the price for a piece of fancy plastic?

ARC faults - seems like requiring megging new circuits would take care of a lot of issues. The DIYers and hacks that cause issues with their wiring aren't likely to install AFCIs on their work anyhow, and would likely remove an existing one if any new work they installed caused problems. Since they are required so close to the panel even when conduit is used it basically looks like there is no confidence an electrician can install any kind of wire or cable without damage.

Requiring drilling of floor joists in crawl spaces for new work in an existing residence where NM-B is already stapled to the bottom of the joists looks like a prime area for an exception, or a requirement for new construction only - -334.15 (C)

I support most code changes but looks like lots of stupid happened this time

480sparky

Iowa has now officially adopted the 2008 NEC for enforecment starting Jan. 1 2009.

One change was made:

Delete section 210.8(A) and replace with the 2005 version of the same section.

Take notice and govern yourselves accordingly.

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In winter, why do we try to keep the house as warm as it was in summer when we complained about the heat?

acrwc10

I guess who ever made that change keeps a lot of frozen food in the garage and doesn't want there 80 year old freezer replaced yet.