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Old 12-29-2010, 12:51 PM   #1
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I'm looking to splice the GEC with an irreversible compression connector...I have these "insulink" connectors, but I'm not sure if they are listed for grounding purposes...How do I find out if it they are?

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Old 12-29-2010, 01:03 PM   #2
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I'm looking to splice the GEC with an irreversible compression connector...I have these "insulink" connectors, but I'm not sure if they are listed for grounding purposes...How do I find out if it they are?
I would suggest you check with your inspection authorities. I M O, compression splicers, sleeves, etc. should be acceptable. But NOT split nut bolts (Burndys) etc.

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I thought the GEC could only be done by exothermic welding.

Oh I see, 250.64 (c), do the splice say listed for grounding and bonding on the package?
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I thought the GEC could only be done by exothermic welding.
Read 250.64...It says irreversible compression connectors listed for grounding...
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Is this for your GEC project from the other thread?

How about a C-tap of H-tap, depending on which crimper you have.
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Is this for your GEC project from the other thread?

How about a C-tap of H-tap, depending on which crimper you have.
Yes. There is about 2-3 inches of 1/0 sticking out of the trough and I thought about just tapping it there...It would save me money and time.

I have the Insulinks that use the bg die and I have some htaps that use the d3 die...I know I can make them work, just wondering if they are "listed for grounding"...I'm probably worrying about nothing here.
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If this is a tap not a splice it can be done with anything.
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All the crimp stuff (C-taps, barrels, lugs) we use (Penn-Union) are UL 467 listed and I think T&B/Blackburn, and Burndy stuff probably is too. I'd just use a barrel splice and be done with it.
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If this is a tap not a splice it can be done with anything.
It's a splice.
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All the crimp stuff (C-taps, barrels, lugs) we use (Penn-Union) are UL 467 listed and I think T&B/Blackburn, and Burndy stuff probably is too. I'd just use a barrel splice and be done with it.
Just checked Burndy's site...It says they aren't UL listed
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The insulink style one I have says:Shure Splicer Connectors meet or exceed
Class A-3 requirements of ANSI C119.4,
when properly installed on aluminum to
aluminum or aluminum to copper


Whatever that means?
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Just checked Burndy's site...It says they aren't UL listed
Uh oh, I guess I broke that rule a few times.

I take it you have a flavor of Burndy MD cripmer right?
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Uh oh, I guess I broke that rule a few times.

I take it you have a flavor of Burndy MD cripmer right?
Yeah, MD6 with the permanent BG and D3 dies.
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Yeah, MD6 with the permanent BG and D3 dies.
The Penn-Union sheets I have say their connectors are listed to be used with Burndy tooling.
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The Penn-Union sheets I have say their connectors are listed to be used with Burndy tooling.
Problem is, no ones stocks crap in this city. I'd try them if someone had them.
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Problem is, no ones stocks crap in this city. I'd try them if someone had them.
Ah but there is the internet, yeah I know ordering one connector online but,
a little application of Google and a 1/0 barrel with UL 467 for $2.78.

http://www.elecdirect.com/product/11...85444f445.aspx
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Ah but there is the internet, yeah I know ordering one connector online but,
a little application of Google and a 1/0 barrel with UL 467 for $2.78.

http://www.elecdirect.com/product/11...85444f445.aspx
Yeah, I got most of my htaps off the net after the ones the lineman gave me ran out...That doesnt specify which Burndy die to use though.
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B-12 die I think.
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B-12 die I think.
Don't have that one...I think im just gonna crimp on the connector that I have and be done with it...I'm a hack, remember...
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Don't have that one...I think im just gonna crimp on the connector that I have and be done with it...I'm a hack, remember...
I never really worried about 467 listing, we just crimp on whatever or use whatever lug. And no one has ever said anything.

I don't think most wirenuts are listed for grounding but no one makes a deal about that either.

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