Originally Posted by Joe71

As I read the 2008 code:
1) Now "all" receptacles in a dwelling must be "tamper resistant".
2) This even applies to GFCI receptacles. (Isn't the GFCI a "tamper resistant" receptacle by definition?!)
3) An exception is the ceiling mounted receptacle for a garage door.

The code seems to allow an exception for ceiling mounted receptacles for such things as fluorescent lights, smoke detectors, etc. Is this correct?

4) All breakers must be of the "arc sensing" type. This even though some panels at my jobber (and home depot/Lowes) come with a few of the non-arc sensing breakers installed. Why is this discrepancy?

5) My jobber says that the GFCI breakers ARE NOT "arc sensing". Are they an exception to the rule or are GFCI arc sensing breakers just not available as yet?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Joe71

Is it worth it if it saves just one human life? No.

Originally Posted by ElectricBill

While 210.12 B has some very weak wording "or similar rooms or areas" which an inspector might get caught up on, my understanding is that Kitchen, laundry, bathroom, garage, unfinished basement and outdoor circuits are excluded from AFCI requirement. A local inspector also allows exceptions for circuits with low voltage lighting due to nuisance tripping issues.

Originally Posted by william1978

Are you on a code making panel Bob?

Originally Posted by Bob Badger

No .... I am just a code geek with too much time on his hands.

The NFPA web site sucks but with some searching you can find all kinds of stuff, the entire 2011 NEC draft copy is here.

http://www.nfpa.org/assets/files/PDF...0-ROPDraft.pdf


You can also find the ROPs (Report on Proposals) and ROCs (Report on Changes) for the 2002, 2005, 2008 and 2011 NEC online.

In those boring pages you find out the real reasons why the rules where changed and see who is asking for the changes.

Originally Posted by I Conduit

How about if that one life was yours?