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Old 07-23-2012, 11:38 PM   #1
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From what I understand they are required on separate derived systems, a service, and where there are concentric and eccentric ko's. Any help?

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From what I understand they are required on separate derived systems, a service, and where there are concentric and eccentric ko's. Any help?
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Well yes you're correct. You need them at a service and at a SDS if you use the provided KO's. However, if you make your own holes...you can use a bonding locknut instead of a MIGB (Malleable Iron Grounding Bushing). Other instances where you might find it necessary to use a MIGB include but are not limited to lightning protection applications and some UPS system installations.

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Well yes you're correct. You need them at a service and at a SDS if you use the provided KO's. However, if you make your own holes...you can use a bonding locknut instead of a MIGB (Malleable Iron Grounding Bushing). Other instances where you might find it necessary to use a MIGB include but are not limited to lightning protection applications and some UPS system installations.
Will a main bonding jumper be sufficient in a PV system or will Ground Bushing be required where AC CB are installed?
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Over 250 volts to ground, Centerfrugal knock outs to name a couple.
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From what I understand they are required on separate derived systems, a service, and where there are concentric and eccentric ko's. Any help?
Once you are past the service no bonding bushings are required unless you have a voltage over 250v to ground and then not always. art. 250.97
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Over 250 volts to ground, Centerfrugal knock outs to name a couple.
Centerfrugal? The middle of being stingy?
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Centerfrugal? The middle of being stingy?
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I think he meant concentric and eccentric...which the OP mentioned.

Here's another application where it's necessary...

Ground Riser in a building...IF run in ferrous metal conduit. EMT, GAL, IMC...if it's in FRE or PVC it is not necessary. Problem with that is...many of the large engineering firms are now speccing a 500MCM ground riser...which is ridiculous. UL did a study that over sizing the wire to 500's from 3/0 does nothing. A major problem we have with high rise construction is that the engineer will spec out the 500MCM in a 2" conduit. There is no UL listed MIGB that can handle a wire that size. Besides...BENDING the 500 to get into the split lug would be a job for Superman!


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