Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum
CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!
Go Back   Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum > Electrical Trade Topics > Other Codes and Standards

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-04-2008, 04:32 PM   #1
Member
 
sparkysteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Byron Center, MI
Posts: 90
Default "Flame Spread Rating" of NM Cable???

Anyone know where I can find this? The mech. inspector wants to see it because we have a 14-2 running horiz. through an apartment bedroom wall with an air transfer it it. The forced air HVAC system has a main return in the living room. And in the bedroom/hallway wall they have transter grilles for relief air. One is on the bedroom side close to the floor, and the other is in the hall near the ceiling. They just use the stud space LIKE a return. Usually they just put them straight through the wall down low, but the owner is worried about noise transfer, thus the different heights. If it has a flame spread rating of 5 or less it can stay according the the Mech. inspector. I argued that it wasn't an actual return just an air transfer. The romex is Southwire brand, and I've been all over their website and can't find anything. Any help would be great.

sparkysteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Join Contractor Talk

Join the #1 Electrician Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

ElectricianTalk.com - Are you a Professional Electrical Contractor? If so we invite you to join our community and see what it has to offer. Our site is specifically designed for you and it's the leading place for electricians to meet online. No homeowners asking DIY questions. Just fellow tradesmen who enjoy talking about their business, their trade, and anything else that comes up. No matter what your specialty is you'll find that ElectricianTalk.com is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally free!

Join ElectricianTalk.com - Click Here JOIN FOR FREE


Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ElectrcianTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!
Old 03-04-2008, 06:14 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: md
Posts: 71
Default

you probably need to download the cut sheet from the manufacturer of the wire that you bought. It should have the flame spread rating and smoke rating for the jacket insulation.

oops, maybe not. try your salesman and see if he can get you something. I just looked up on southwire and there's nothing on the data sheet. (I don't do resi - is romex allowed to be run in environmental air areas ?)

Last edited by nakulak; 03-04-2008 at 06:22 PM.
nakulak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2008, 08:17 PM   #3
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: NY State
Posts: 3,746
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkysteve View Post
Anyone know where I can find this? The mech. inspector wants to see it .......
Seriously?
Seems a bit anal if you ask me.



Quote:
Originally Posted by nakulak View Post
(I don't do resi - is romex allowed to be run in environmental air areas ?)
Yes, perpendicularly. 300.22(C) Exc.
Speedy Petey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2008, 09:22 PM   #4
Member
 
sparkysteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Byron Center, MI
Posts: 90
Default

Quote:
Seriously?
Seems a bit anal if you ask me.
That's what I thought. I called our office and they were putting a call in to our supplier. I was just curious and wanted to find it.
sparkysteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 02:58 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Bkessler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,744
Default

It's not the inspector in troy is it? Because I've had issues with that guy in the past.
__________________
When ls lunch
Bkessler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 08:07 PM   #6
Member
 
sparkysteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Byron Center, MI
Posts: 90
Default

Nope, Allendale Twp. MI
sparkysteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2008, 12:14 AM   #7
rbj
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 72
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkysteve View Post
Anyone know where I can find this? If it has a flame spread rating of 5 or less it can stay according the the Mech. inspector. I argued that it wasn't an actual return just an air transfer. The romex is Southwire brand, and I've been all over their website and can't find anything. Any help would be great.
Hi Sparkysteve,

I have Southwires wire and cable handbook. The only tests listed are for verticle flame spread and references to Limited Smoke (LS) ratings that you would see in plenum Cat.5 cables. You would need to contact the Southwire technical rep for a distinct read on this.
I believe the inspector is worried about vertical smoke spread occurring in the particular wall bay the Mechanical sub is using for ventilation. That is the AHJ's call unfortunately. If the wall is closed, I would put a cut-in in the adjoining bay and fish a vertical run looped over and by-passing the ducted bay to the next outlet in that BC. rbj

spelling

Last edited by rbj; 03-09-2008 at 09:37 AM.
rbj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 09:19 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 185
Default

Can you sleve it in emt and firestop or duxseal it
cmec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 06:33 AM   #9
rbj
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 72
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmec View Post
Can you sleve it in emt and firestop or duxseal it
That would be the AHJ's call. Re-routing is easier if the wall is open, then there is no question of compliance. rbj
rbj is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
CEC question -- running conductors "square" with building lines Animal Other Codes and Standards 7 12-23-2008 03:53 PM
What does a union "transportation systems electrician" do here in California? sickytwisted Union Topics 4 11-30-2008 07:11 PM
Dont miss "Worlds toughest fixes" tonight! JRent General Electrical Discussion 3 10-02-2008 10:41 AM
New Square D Homeline "old work" load center wirenut1110 Tools, Equipment and New Products 5 07-14-2008 08:09 PM
Replace "Potentiometric Null Tester" with Fluke 87 or later model? Joe O'Brien General Electrical Discussion 2 06-28-2007 10:56 AM

Top of Page | View New Posts

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:00 PM.


Electrician Talk © 2006 - 2010 The Building Network LLC

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0