Chandeliers on winches need power solution - Page 2 - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum

JPRO2 · 12-17-2008, 12:45 AM

whoops i think i completely miss understood that sorry ive never seen any kind of light hung from a winch

spoon · 12-17-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JPRO2

sorry i may be mis understanding.
but would it be possible to use a normally closed limit switch hooked up in series with the light so when the light starts to lower it breaks contact with the switch

Yeah, they have contacts up at the top so when the light lowers, the contact breaks and power is then cutoff from the fixture. They come with all of that stuff pre-engineered in. They're pretty kewl!

JPRO2 · 12-17-2008, 01:04 AM

No doubt hope to come across one some day. Good luck finding a solution though

electricalperson · 12-17-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JPRO2

sorry i may be mis understanding.
but would it be possible to use a normally closed limit switch hooked up in series with the light so when the light starts to lower it breaks contact with the switch

the bottom of the fixture has a spot for a hickey. you hang the light off of a hickey with a rod. the plastic disk has 3 wires hanging off of it a white black and ground. on top of the disk has round metal contacts and hwen the light raises to the box the contacts at the top facing down connect with contacts facing up. if theres paint on those it wouldnt make a good connection.

on the last aladdin lift kit i installed it came wired wrong from the factory. the power source for the control wire that you run down the wall was connected to the power source from the light. in order to lower the lift the light needed to be on. i just had to swap 2 connections and it was fixed. its supposed to be on the source feeding the motor.

you can run 2 14/2's or a 14/3 and share the neutral. just follow the directions in the box

hbiss · 12-29-2008, 11:02 PM

This is something that you absolutely do not want to get involved with yourself. You need to get an engineer to design, spec and approve the equipment and installation. Then you need a professional rigger to install the winches and hang the fixtures.

This is a public building and the consequences for you, your company and the building owner are enormous. If one of those fixtures falls and kills somebody even 10 years after you installed it, guaranteed you will hang. Engineers and riggers have the expertise to get this done properly and most importantly SAFELY. They are insured for this type of work, are you?

-Hal

JohnJ0906 · 12-29-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hbiss

This is something that you absolutely do not want to get involved with yourself. You need to get an engineer to design, spec and approve the equipment and installation. Then you need a professional rigger to install the winches and hang the fixtures.

This is a public building and the consequences for you, your company and the building owner are enormous. If one of those fixtures falls and kills somebody even 10 years after you installed it, guaranteed you will hang. Engineers and riggers have the expertise to get this done properly and most importantly SAFELY. They are insured for this type of work, are you?

-Hal

Great point Hal. However, the OP is 18 months old.

TOOL_5150 · 12-30-2008, 01:14 AM

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Great point Hal. However, the OP is 18 months old.

Is he old enough to be posting on this forum?

~Matt

hbiss · 12-30-2008, 12:56 PM

Right but it looks like it has been resurrected. I think the OP was the lighting manufacturer so if he is still tuning in, this is something he needs to understand. A lot of these lighting manufacturers don't understand the electrical industry or installation, only how to make their products look pretty.

-Hal

Dembones · 02-04-2009, 09:43 PM

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No pentar or something like that. Funny story... a year or so back we were working on this four story mixed use building, and the painters were spraying inside of some of the units. My buddy walks down one of the hallways leading into one of those units and "whoosh!" Got sprayed right across the face and chest. "Spray gun just appeared outta' nowhere!" Good thing it was about lunchtime, we all had a good laugh.

That's awesome! I actually started out painting, didn't last long because reasoning and common sense are frowned upon in that industry. The painters I was working with on a recent Fred Meyer remodel were the worst I've ever seen. Born in the US, spoke perfect english, and were dumb as a bag of Harbor Freight hammers. They tried to argue that my cables, that were cut right exactly where they masked, TWO SEPARATE TIMES, were cut by my guys. They cut absolutely everything in their path, sometimes it seemed they went out of their way to cause me grief