I need to illuminate this sign - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum

Chris Kennedy · 07-12-2012, 07:28 PM

I have been trying to pass the buck to a lighting designer for a couple months. Ball is back in my court. My sign circuit is in a bell box on the brown stucco band below the sign out of pic to right. There is a 4" horizontal ledge on the radius I need to install something low profile on.

An ideas?
Thanks

mcclary's electrical · 07-12-2012, 07:48 PM

Led ribbon!

Bbsound · 07-12-2012, 08:04 PM

back light it with led ribbon!!!! squeeze it in behind each letter

wildleg · 07-12-2012, 08:08 PM

seems like the designer/architect dropped a deuce on that one

**Dennis Alwon** · 07-12-2012, 08:20 PM

You haven't got much choice. I would mount a single LED spot and be done with it.

B4T · 07-12-2012, 08:32 PM

I would put a 175W MH flood (10) feet in front of the sign if the area is lawn or a planting bed..

backstay · 07-12-2012, 10:56 PM

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Try this only with the conduit curving down.

Theriot · 07-12-2012, 11:14 PM

What about lighting the back of the letters by putting the lights behind the sign. It really makes for a nice effect and by laminating the wall behind the sign it makes the letter stand out. It would also give you the clean look they want.

captkirk · 07-12-2012, 11:15 PM

What about three goose neck type lights to match that coach lights..?

Bbsound · 07-12-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Theriot

What about lighting the back of the letters by putting the lights behind the sign. It really makes for a nice effect and by laminating the wall behind the sign it makes the letter stand out. It would also give you the clean look they want.

What a great idea!!!

chicken steve · 07-13-2012, 07:20 AM

rope lights?

~CS~

Theriot · 07-13-2012, 10:04 AM

I would look into LED strips that you could run along the back.

hardworkingstiff · 07-13-2012, 10:08 AM

My 1st question would be, what are the zoning laws governing lights. In this day and age, you can't just slap lights up without approvals.

BBQ · 07-13-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hardworkingstiff

My 1st question would be, what are the zoning laws governing lights. In this day and age, you can't just slap lights up without approvals.

Exactly my thought as well, Chris will likely have to come up with a design and run it by some sort of board for approval.

BBQ · 07-13-2012, 10:17 AM

Last summer we 're-branded' about 100 stores with new signs for the same large chain.

As much as they would want uniformity each town had different rules about the signs and often changes had to be made, from full lighting, to partial lighting only, to maximum sq ft allowed to be lit, other area would allow only 'silhouetted' letters.

I think my first stop would be with the city or town to see what they would allow.

Beyond that I would be thinking the goose neck fixtures.

hardworkingstiff · 07-13-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BBQ

As much as they would want uniformity each town had different rules about the signs and often changes had to be made, from full lighting, to partial lighting only, to maximum sq ft allowed to be lit, other area would allow only 'silhouetted' letters.

Have you ever been to Hilton Head, SC? If you are there at night and don't know what/where you are looking for, forget it. They are so down on lights, you can't see a store until you are past it.

Chris Kennedy · 07-13-2012, 07:53 PM

Thanks to all who have replied.

My first suggestion a couple months ago after seeing the original shop drawings was ¼" greater stand-off and back lit by LED ( didn't consider it but the goose necks would have looked great also). The sign is actually mounted to the building on the second floor lease space also occupied by the same individual. At the time I had free reign to tear up as much of the interior as needed, now finished office space. After multiple fine art works (crude renderings my myself) shown to the owner he couldn't grasp what this would look like. I strongly suggested they ask the sign guy for the names of a couple designers they are comfortable with.

Now a week ago;

Owner isn't happy with what he has heard and is adamant I get this done. Now they want me to light it from the little 4" cantilever below. I'm thinking a few very low profile luminiares like the DA posted mounted to an oversize T condulet. Prefer 120V suggestions.

Thanks again.

B4T · 07-13-2012, 08:01 PM

As others have said..goosenecks.. I agree..

I used these with (23) watt. CFL lamps.. easy to install and lots of choices..

**Dennis Alwon** · 07-13-2012, 09:20 PM

Chris they make double and triple headed floods like below for $150 or so. You could remove the motion sensor or look for one without them. Remember not all LED's are created equal-- hard to get ones that last.

I found these here http://www.lightinguniverse.com/floo...ductItemsImage

BBQ · 07-13-2012, 09:22 PM

Read the specs of the fixtures carefully as many flood / spot type fixtures are not intended for aiming above vertical and water will be an issue.