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08-10-2009, 04:08 PM
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You could use 300 Kcmil THHN/ THWN copper conductors in parallel for 570 amps, or you could use 350 Kcmil in parallel for 620 amps. It depends on your calculated load. IMO if you're selling a 600 amp service then give them conductors that'll carry the full 600 amps.
If you choose to use the 300's, 1/0 copper for your water pipe electrode, and 2/0 if you choose the 350's.
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yes I think ot will also depend on the lugs I believe I need them to be rated at 95
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08-10-2009, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gemini13
well I have installed 2- 800 amp single phase service it's been awhile the last one was a 14 unit building.
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Thats great. 
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I was just askinkinh for some ideas
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And I was just suggesting that before you waste to much time planing to check with the power company about what they are willing to supply that address with.
But if you feel like rolling the dice and perhaps redoing your work go for it.
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08-10-2009, 05:36 PM
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yes I think ot will also depend on the lugs I believe I need them to be rated at 95
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Do you mean temperature rating of the lugs? If so, you'll need your equipment to be rated for 75º. Your THHN is rated for 75º as well. There is no such thing as a 95º temperature rating for equipment or conductors and very rarely is anything ever rated for even 90º.
You also want to take Bob's advice and contact the power company. Hopefully they'll provide you with an representative who's familiar with the wiring in the area of your job and can guide you through the process.
Also, how long will this service take you to build? 10 meters/ 10 disconnects/ and ten panels could take more than an hour or two. What will the people living in the building do while the power is shutoff?
If this is "one big side job" I suggest you pass this job off to your boss and let him handle it.
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08-10-2009, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Badger
Thats great.
And I was just suggesting that before you waste to much time planing to check with the power company about what they are willing to supply that address with.
But if you feel like rolling the dice and perhaps redoing your work go for it. |
I have installed a service for a 14 unit building in that area years ago, but i do plan on talking with the power company once I have an idea what im going to do
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08-10-2009, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Magnettica
Do you mean temperature rating of the lugs? If so, you'll need your equipment to be rated for 75º. Your THHN is rated for 75º as well. There is no such thing as a 95º temperature rating for equipment or conductors and very rarely is anything ever rated for even 90º.
You also want to take Bob's advice and contact the power company. Hopefully they'll provide you with an representative who's familiar with the wiring in the area of your job and can guide you through the process.
Also, how long will this service take you to build? 10 meters/ 10 disconnects/ and ten panels could take more than an hour or two. What will the people living in the building do while the power is shutoff?
If this is "one big side job" I suggest you pass this job off to your boss and let him handle it.
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I am the boss the building is empty , and I was just getting ideas. Thanks for your concern, you may try not to be such a tool next time. I will install all the meters, and the house panel. Then we can restore power to the building that has been empty for 3 years.
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08-10-2009, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gemini13
I am the boss the building is empty , and I was just getting ideas. Thanks for your concern, you may try not to be such a tool next time. I will install all the meters, and the house panel. Then we can restore power to the building that has been empty for 3 years.
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diconnects and meters all one piece, they all bolt together. It is very easy to install I think you could do it.
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08-10-2009, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gemini13
I am the boss the building is empty , and I was just getting ideas. Thanks for your concern, you may try not to be such a tool next time. I will install all the meters, and the house panel. Then we can restore power to the building that has been empty for 3 years.
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Some boss you are, you didn't even know where to look for some pretty basic grounding requirements, tool.
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08-10-2009, 11:27 PM
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Some boss you are, you didn't even know where to look for some pretty basic grounding requirements, tool.
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True. But ouch. 
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08-11-2009, 05:42 AM
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True. But ouch. |
I dint have a book so I came on here to you people with no life.
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08-11-2009, 04:53 PM
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I dint have a book so I came on here to you people with no life.
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Everyone is going to be so eager to help you now. 
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08-11-2009, 04:55 PM
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I dint have a book so I came on here to you people with no life.
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I may not 'have a life' but I do know how to do my job.
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08-11-2009, 05:54 PM
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I may not 'have a life' but I do know how to do my job. |
Ditto that.
I was just thinking that I have no life but less than 2 weeks ago I tailgated with friends for over 4 hours, watched ACDC with 50,000 other metal maniacs, and on Friday night I'm going to a preseason NFL game.
Damn.... I really do have no life!
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Last edited by Magnettica; 08-11-2009 at 07:51 PM.
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08-11-2009, 07:56 PM
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Why don't you own a code book, boss man? Life get in the way?
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08-11-2009, 09:16 PM
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Why don't you own a code book, boss man? Life get in the way?
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I do I didnt have it at my house. Thanks again TOOL
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08-11-2009, 09:18 PM
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I do I didnt have it at my house. Thanks again TOOL
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Inphase277 is a redneck. 480sparky is a tool.
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08-11-2009, 09:18 PM
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I do I didnt have it at my house. Thanks again TOOL
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I got my bid talk to power company as planned will start in a week 6,000 in a day for me. thanks
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08-11-2009, 09:19 PM
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Settle down, Gemini, you can learn a lot here but you have to chill out a bit.
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08-11-2009, 09:20 PM
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Thanks for your concern, you may try not to be such a tool next time.
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A tool is a mechanical devise that makes a job easier.. better find a new word 
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08-11-2009, 09:21 PM
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Not Peter D
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I got my bid talk to power company as planned will start in a week 6,000 in a day for me. thanks
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08-11-2009, 09:25 PM
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$6000 in a day?
Hell, you could sub that baby out to me, I'll do it for $3000 
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