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Old 11-12-2008, 02:15 AM   #1
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Default Basement 240v to 120v conversion

Willing be doing this soon and a lot of it apparently so want to start off strong.

30 amp breaker box in the basement and a dryer outlet that is 240v. How should I go about converting so there are 120v outlets available?
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Not to bust your balls but if you're an apprentice why haven't you asked the JW that you work with about this? And as even a 1st year apprentice you should know that you need a neutral to get 120v, so think about what you need to add to get what you desire there.
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I agree. This is stuff your journeymen or school are supposed to be teaching you.
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run a few extension cords............. but oh wait theres more, make sure they are ul listed
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Willing be doing this soon and a lot of it apparently so want to start off strong.

30 amp breaker box in the basement and a dryer outlet that is 240v. How should I go about converting so there are 120v outlets available?
I guess it would depend on the wiring, What type wiring? How many conductors? etc. 240 can mean just 240 with no neutral and no ground. Or it can have a neutral and no ground or it can have a neutral with a ground.
Are you planning on doing away with the dryer?
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Willing be doing this soon and a lot of it apparently so want to start off strong.

30 amp breaker box in the basement and a dryer outlet that is 240v. How should I go about converting so there are 120v outlets available?
Sounds like a side job gone bad
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Willing be doing this soon and a lot of it apparently so want to start off strong.

30 amp breaker box in the basement and a dryer outlet that is 240v. How should I go about converting so there are 120v outlets available?
Probably easiest to throw the 120/240 switch the other direction:

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Old 01-16-2009, 05:50 PM   #8
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Probably easiest to throw the 120/240 switch the other direction:

Do they make a 277/480 version of that as well?
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Do they make a 277/480 version of that as well?
Yep!

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No transformer required! Just $11.99 at your local electrical supplies dealer!
They're only $7.99 at Home Cheapo!
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Actually, I have done switches somewhat similar to this for dual-voltage single phase motors on construction tools. Like air compressors, table saws, etc.

Some of the older Dewalt radial arm saws came from the factory with a dual voltage switch. Anyone who has used woodworking tools much knows they are considerably more powerful on 240 than 120. Especially when using a long extension cord.

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Actually, I have done switches somewhat similar to this for dual-voltage single phase motors on construction tools. Like air compressors, table saws, etc.

Some of the older Dewalt radial arm saws came from the factory with a dual voltage switch. Anyone who has used woodworking tools much knows they are considerably more powerful on 240 than 120. Especially when using a long extension cord.

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I'd like to see how they get away with using a single NEMA cord cap for both 120 and 240.
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I'd like to see how they get away with using a single NEMA cord cap for both 120 and 240.
an L14-30 has 120v and 240v avalible. - but I get your point.

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an L14-30 has 120v and 240v avalible. - but I get your point.

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If you've got an L14-30 receptacle, you've got 240. Why run it at 120?

If you've only got a 120 receptacle, how do you plug it in?
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It would certainly never get a UL listing these days, but I remember many years ago (in the 60's when I was just a kid) that most of the Dewalt 10" and 12" radial arm saws had a dual voltage switch on the end of the motor. The cord plugs were the 6-15 type (15 amp 250 volt straight blade), and everyone had an adapter that had a 125 volt plug and a 250 volt connector.

They also had adapters for twist-lock, dryer recpts, range recpts, etc.

You have to remember, this was the 60's, people actually had common sense back then. There wasn't a rule for everything, you learned how to use stuff like this on the job.

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