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11-12-2008, 02:15 AM
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Basement 240v to 120v conversion
Willing be doing this soon and a lot of it apparently so want to start off strong.
30 amp breaker box in the basement and a dryer outlet that is 240v. How should I go about converting so there are 120v outlets available?
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11-12-2008, 06:31 AM
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Not to bust your balls but if you're an apprentice why haven't you asked the JW that you work with about this? And as even a 1st year apprentice you should know that you need a neutral to get 120v, so think about what you need to add to get what you desire there.
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11-12-2008, 06:50 AM
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I agree. This is stuff your journeymen or school are supposed to be teaching you.
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01-14-2009, 08:27 PM
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run a few extension cords............. but oh wait theres more, make sure they are ul listed
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01-14-2009, 08:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noobapprentice
Willing be doing this soon and a lot of it apparently so want to start off strong.
30 amp breaker box in the basement and a dryer outlet that is 240v. How should I go about converting so there are 120v outlets available?
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I guess it would depend on the wiring, What type wiring? How many conductors? etc. 240 can mean just 240 with no neutral and no ground. Or it can have a neutral and no ground or it can have a neutral with a ground.
Are you planning on doing away with the dryer?
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01-14-2009, 11:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noobapprentice
Willing be doing this soon and a lot of it apparently so want to start off strong.
30 amp breaker box in the basement and a dryer outlet that is 240v. How should I go about converting so there are 120v outlets available?
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Sounds like a side job gone bad
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01-15-2009, 12:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noobapprentice
Willing be doing this soon and a lot of it apparently so want to start off strong.
30 amp breaker box in the basement and a dryer outlet that is 240v. How should I go about converting so there are 120v outlets available?
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Probably easiest to throw the 120/240 switch the other direction:
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01-16-2009, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MDShunk
Probably easiest to throw the 120/240 switch the other direction:

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Do they make a 277/480 version of that as well?
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01-17-2009, 12:05 PM
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01-17-2009, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter D
Do they make a 277/480 version of that as well?
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Yep!
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01-17-2009, 12:27 PM
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Yep!

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No transformer required! Just $11.99 at your local electrical supplies dealer!
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01-17-2009, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter D
No transformer required! Just $11.99 at your local electrical supplies dealer!
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They're only $7.99 at Home Cheapo!
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01-17-2009, 08:27 PM
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Actually, I have done switches somewhat similar to this for dual-voltage single phase motors on construction tools. Like air compressors, table saws, etc.
Some of the older Dewalt radial arm saws came from the factory with a dual voltage switch. Anyone who has used woodworking tools much knows they are considerably more powerful on 240 than 120. Especially when using a long extension cord.
Rob
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01-17-2009, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by micromind
Actually, I have done switches somewhat similar to this for dual-voltage single phase motors on construction tools. Like air compressors, table saws, etc.
Some of the older Dewalt radial arm saws came from the factory with a dual voltage switch. Anyone who has used woodworking tools much knows they are considerably more powerful on 240 than 120. Especially when using a long extension cord.
Rob
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I'd like to see how they get away with using a single NEMA cord cap for both 120 and 240.
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01-17-2009, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 480sparky
I'd like to see how they get away with using a single NEMA cord cap for both 120 and 240.
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an L14-30 has 120v and 240v avalible. - but I get your point.
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01-17-2009, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TOOL_5150
an L14-30 has 120v and 240v avalible. - but I get your point.
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If you've got an L14-30 receptacle, you've got 240. Why run it at 120?
If you've only got a 120 receptacle, how do you plug it in?
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01-18-2009, 11:56 PM
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It would certainly never get a UL listing these days, but I remember many years ago (in the 60's when I was just a kid) that most of the Dewalt 10" and 12" radial arm saws had a dual voltage switch on the end of the motor. The cord plugs were the 6-15 type (15 amp 250 volt straight blade), and everyone had an adapter that had a 125 volt plug and a 250 volt connector.
They also had adapters for twist-lock, dryer recpts, range recpts, etc.
You have to remember, this was the 60's, people actually had common sense back then. There wasn't a rule for everything, you learned how to use stuff like this on the job.
Rob
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01-19-2009, 01:23 AM
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Just tape one wire white
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