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Old 08-30-2007, 06:17 PM   #1
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Thumbs up best 200 amp panel???

looking for some advise on brands, what do you guys think is the best brand for a residentional 200 amp breaker panel, suare D,homeline,siemans,etc...? does it really even make much of a difference? thanks all

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Old 08-30-2007, 06:21 PM   #2
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Square D QO.

I can't comment on cost, but we use both QO and Seimens, and I prefer the QO.

Of course, some of this is due to using them for years, and being familiar with them.

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Old 08-30-2007, 06:32 PM   #3
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lol.....shunk is a comedian at heart...lol....I would guess I am partial to Eaton® Products but I have no idea why
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:08 PM   #5
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lol.....shunk is a comedian at heart...lol....I would guess I am partial to Eaton® Products but I have no idea why
No, I was dead serious. I feel the Pushmatic was the best resi panel ever made. Just hard for older folks to push in and out.

Lacking that option now, I'm an Eaton man too. (Cutler-Hammer). Specificaly, the CH series. They plug on tighter than any residential panel on the market. They had a little manufacturing boo-boo for 6 months or so, but things are back in line again. Good thing. They're my main panel.

I would add that I don't think there's anything on the market right now that's absolute junk. You'll get pretty good service, no matter what you pick. My least favorite is probably GE, but I can't really put my finger on why. Lots of little things, but not enough for me to not put one in if a customer specifically asked for one.
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Pushmatic is in my opinion one of the best, with the excepton of the 2-poles which if I rememeber were complicated....Then Square D hands down
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Pushmatic is in my opinion one of the best, with the excepton of the 2-poles which if I rememeber were complicated...
I wouldn't say that they were so much complicated as they were just weird. You had to bring one leg down the left side of the panel and the other leg down the right side of the panel. The 2 poles spanned side to side, as opposed to over/under like everything else.
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I prefer Square D QO series, then Cutler Hammer. If price is important I will still go Square D but Homline rather than QO. Then Seimens. My last pick would be GE.
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I won't use Square D unless pushed simply because the company that owns them still sells FPE based junk in Canada (Federal Pioneer). Yes, it's guilt by association. Don't care.

Anyway, CH (I'll use either CH or BR, never had trouble with either), Siemens, Sq D if I HAVE to (no Homeline). I don't like GE - the buss just looks 'iffy" to me for the minis.
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My first pick is always Square D QO - however a little pricey, Then Murray, and then CH. Homeline seems a little 'cheap' and I agree with everyone about GE - Just dont like em.

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I can get the panels crazy cheap now, so I only install QO... here are some panels I upgraded recently.








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In my area, Cutler Hammer BR series is probably the biggest seller. Personally, I like the way Siemens lays their panels out, but they aren't quite as sturdy as CH. Square D still gets a lot of use on higher end jobs, but if I'm bidding a "to code house", I'll go with Cutler Hammer BR series every time.

Used to use the Cutler Hammer CH series some "back in the day", but at that time they just didn't stack up to SQD's QO breakers. Maybe the product has improved in the last 20 years.
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Not sure Federal Pioneer makes MCCB's, but the FPE transformers and draw out CB's are decent.


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IMO Sq D QO is the best. I used to install GE @ 15 years ago but it seems that when the Big home centers picked them up the product went straight down hill. The cabinet itself seemed to be made from a thinner gauge steel? I used to tell custmers that FPE stood for Fire Protection was Extra. Sometimes the breaker would trip and sometimes it wouldn't
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Wow, you've actually had a FPE breaker trip?!?



It must be defective.
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John,
I thought I was welding but something finally let go. Maybe the cutout on the pole.
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FPE Fix Prior to Energizing.

I was involved in the FPE recall replacement in the commercial bolt in CBs the issue as I recall was the CBs did not meet the AIC rating design.
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I like Murray, Hate when I have to add a circuit into a G.E. 200 amp 20/40 mini panel.
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[quote=itsunclebill;8193]I won't use Square D unless pushed simply because the company that owns them still sells FPE based junk in Canada (Federal Pioneer). Yes, it's guilt by association. Don't care.

Careful Bill, you're liable ta stir our FPE fan, friend from N. Carolina outa the underbrush.
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Careful Bill, you're liable ta stir our FPE fan, friend from N. Carolina outa the underbrush.
You talking about Mike?
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'fraid so, Marc. Bill and I had a rather lengthy discussion w/ him a coupla months ago re: FPE gear. His opinion was that anyone who recommended replacing equipment based on its' brand name was just trying to make an unethical and unecessary buck. It got a little heated.

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