220/221

Phase tape on the service conductors?

They belong to POCO. The neutral is smaller so I guess they figure it's not necessary to mark it.


Power was restored at 8PM last night. Everybody at POCO put the blame on someone else.

B4T

Here most guys do the change over hot and avoid the BS of dealing with the POCO

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JoeKP

Haha, same over here too

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user4818

That's all well and good, but I don't think 220 has any choice.

Dennis Alwon

I have never phase taped a single phase system

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Dennis Alwon

That's a dangerous thing to do with an underground feed.

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B4T

I agree, but I line the inside of the meter pan with cardboard and move very slowly.

Sliding the riser off the feeders is always a tricky thing to do.

That is why I use Scotch 33+ to make sure the tape stays where I put it

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B4T

The POCO here is really under manned.. so much so they sub a lot of work out to UNION contractors.

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Mastertorturer

Yeah I was refering to the identified conductor. If it's their wire, screw em. Just busting chops really.

Was wondering if there's a reason for the meter box to be the full size of the panelboard? Manufacturers are only getting cheaper these days.

BuzzKill

My N's get taped, that's it.
You guys changing out services hot are nuts.
That is a weird looking panel with the main lug right there in the middle of the circuit breakers...is that a Siemans?

220/221

I have, in the past, changed many services without permission but the liabilty/risk is getting too great here. I'd strill do it in certain cases but SOP is to stay legal and deal with the authorities.


I have always been comfortable just making the service conductors safe with tape and sliding the panel on/off but it is a lot more comfortable having them deenergized.....de energized..denergized...turned off.




Check this out.





There was an UG JB about twent feet from the service. That doesn't look safe. One of the wires is showing a few inches of oxidized bare ALuminum







I guarantee that the POCO guy didn't address this issue.


Working space. Gotta love that !!

ampman

i see the myers hub but where are the conductors

220/221

In my scrap bin



When there are pictures, do you guys even read the text?

ampman

the eyes don't work like they used to
and it wont leak

jr360

Nice work, but I still don't see the answer to wire nuts are wire stretcher.

HARRY304E

[quote=220/221;154311]UG service change.

About 5 years ago I installed a cooktop circuit and a couple of kitchen circuits. I also found a burned AC breaker/bus. I relocated the AC breaker and told them they would need a new service.

About two months ago they added a steam shower, a jetted tub and a bath circuit. I told them they would need a new service and left the cables stubbed out waiting for them to commit.

About a month ago they are having power issues. The classic Murray 200 amp main had failed/burned at the bus connection. I sold them a new main and told them they need a new service.

The UG service changes like this are relatively easy as the bonding/gtounding is in place and up to current code and there is not a lot of crap added on.

8:30 AM



9:30 AM


11:30 AM




12:30 PM

Existing PVC ran to a hot tub in the back yard (I assumed) After I ran it into the panel I lookeed in the back yard to see that the hot tub had been abandoned. The wires were hanging in an LB so I yanked them out.




Done by 1:00 PM




Have lunch....wait for inspector......wait....wait.....

2:30 inspector shows,approves calls it in to POCO.

3:30 and POCO isn't there. I have a feeling they wont be there. Shift change is at 2PM and if it's not called in by 1:30, it seems to get lost in the system.

I've been home for hours. It's now 6:30 PM and they are still not there.

Customers are always pre informed on the likelyhood of such an even but I'm sure they won't be happy. Office manager is in contact with homeowners...still waiting for POCO clowns.[/quotGood work looks great....

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HARRY304E

Well wire nuts don't strech wires....

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noarcflash

If you do it hot, and blow yourself up, you can sue the home owner for not enforcing 70E.