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09-16-2009, 01:59 AM
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Journeyman Wireman
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Location: Canandaigua, NY
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Hazards of FPE equipment
In another part of the forum there was some discussion on Federal Pacific breakers. I have found a link that if you were to print out the information and show your potencial customers you could convince them to change thier panel or go with a new service. http://www.inspect-ny.com/fpe/fpepanel.htm One area that I work in , Honeoye NY, has several FPE panels in use and I have made many upgrades there.. It may seem like a scare tactic in selling the job, but you are also telling the truth. Hope this helps.
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09-17-2009, 01:14 AM
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Junior Member
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Good website, I kept this breaker that I took from a store, it was feeding a subpanel and the customer called us because they lost power in some lights and receptacles. When I got there I smelled the burning breaker and the worst thing was, one leg was still working  , we replaced the breaker obviously, but we have to replace the feeder conductors too because the insulation was badly damage. So now I show this breaker to all my customers with FPB.
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09-17-2009, 01:19 AM
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Journeyman Wireman
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Awesome Pic. FPE at its finest.
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09-17-2009, 01:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazymurph
Awesome Pic. FPE at its finest.
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Too bad it's a Zinsco breaker in the photo.
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09-17-2009, 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 480sparky
Too bad it's a Zinsco breaker in the photo. 
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Good to see you still have a sharp eye  
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09-17-2009, 04:17 PM
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Junior Member
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Actually you are right it is a ziznco breaker, but in my opinion and personal experience both are really crappy
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09-17-2009, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Black4Truck
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Eh?!?! What'd you say, sonny?
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09-21-2009, 08:05 PM
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So, uh, what do you tell the customer with an FPE panel if the breaker is tripping on overload? I know, don't tell me, a new branch circuit. I tell them to do a Google search and that the company was cited for several UL violations.
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09-21-2009, 08:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnettica
So, uh, what do you tell the customer with an FPE panel if the breaker is tripping on overload? I know, don't tell me, a new branch circuit. I tell them to do a Google search and that the company was cited for several UL violations.
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First.. tell him he is lucky the breaker trips at all
Most hum really loud and get hot.. something like a woman
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09-21-2009, 08:46 PM
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Hack and Rat all in one
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They still sell brand new FPE stuff in Canada.  Well, ok, it's called Federal Pioneer up there, but it looks pretty much the same.
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09-22-2009, 12:25 AM
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"Euro" electrician
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I know someone did mention Zinsco breaker and I did save the youtube link with that.
So show that to some of your customers if they don't belive it and I did show it to couple of my customer and cha-ding! nice service changeover no question asked.
Merci,Marc
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09-22-2009, 01:54 AM
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Journeyman Wireman
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Good Video Frenchi.
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10-02-2009, 01:56 PM
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That Guy
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Great video, except for the guy sticking his face right in front of the molten mess at the end, geez at least put your sunglasses on
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