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I will line them up for you when I go back 
NO ONE except an electrician would even notice. About 30 years ago a guy on a jobsite asked me why we made box offsets. I thought he made a good point and I stopped doing it. Now, in most cases, my EMT goes straight into 4S boxes.
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10-01-2009, 09:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 220/221
I will line them up for you when I go back
NO ONE except an electrician would even notice. About 30 years ago a guy on a jobsite asked me why we made box offsets. I thought he made a good point and I stopped doing it. Now, in most cases, my EMT goes straight into 4S boxes. |
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10-02-2009, 12:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 220/221
I will line them up for you when I go back
NO ONE except an electrician would even notice. About 30 years ago a guy on a jobsite asked me why we made box offsets. I thought he made a good point and I stopped doing it. Now, in most cases, my EMT goes straight into 4S boxes. |
I'm gonna catch hell from some die hard commercial guys for this one......but I just use cowboys most of the time to avoid offsets if I can. (and I actually don't mind bending smaller pipe, just hate bending offsets for boxes....)
220, I gotta tell ya, it's nice work and all but I really do miss the 456,652 pieces of NM coming through the 4" hole in the block.
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10-02-2009, 01:00 PM
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what!! no black tape on the A phase!!
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10-02-2009, 01:44 PM
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Are you serious??
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10-02-2009, 01:47 PM
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Are you serious??
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I think he's kidding, but you never know. 
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10-02-2009, 05:59 PM
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They are all taped black.
I only had red, blue and white wire available 
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10-02-2009, 07:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 220/221
I will line them up for you when I go back
NO ONE except an electrician would even notice. About 30 years ago a guy on a jobsite asked me why we made box offsets. I thought he made a good point and I stopped doing it. Now, in most cases, my EMT goes straight into 4S boxes. |
geez I only did that in track housing in the basement and I even felt bad about that!!! Hope you aren't doing that with exposed work...
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10-02-2009, 11:48 PM
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They are all taped black.
I only had red, blue and white wire available |
There must be no budget on that job
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10-02-2009, 11:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 220/221
I will line them up for you when I go back
NO ONE except an electrician would even notice. About 30 years ago a guy on a jobsite asked me why we made box offsets. I thought he made a good point and I stopped doing it. Now, in most cases, my EMT goes straight into 4S boxes. |
I was looking thru older threads about work trucks and saw a picture of yours, I thought you were a god among men.
Now I read this and see you are merely a mortal, a hacky mortal 
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10-03-2009, 12:33 AM
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what happens if your terminating and u find the phaseing tape fell off one of the wires. it would be easier to figure out which phase it is!
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10-03-2009, 08:22 AM
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what happens if your terminating and u find the phaseing tape fell off one of the wires. it would be easier to figure out which phase it is!
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That's why I like to load up the conductor with a ton of tape. I like to leave no doubt that this is the red, that ones the blue, and this one here is the neutral. Tape away, a roll of tape or three should be in the budget.
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10-03-2009, 06:38 PM
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Quote:
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what happens if your terminating and u find the phaseing tape fell off one of the wires. it would be easier to figure out which phase it is!
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Make sure it doesn't happen.
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10-05-2009, 05:40 PM
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Hope you aren't doing that with exposed work...
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The janitor is the only one who will ever see it 
OK....I'll FIX it, Ill FIX it, I'll FIX it........maybe.
If you are talking about box offsets, no one but electricians notice them.
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what happens if your terminating and u find the phaseing tape fell off one of the wires. it would be easier to figure out which phase it is!
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I guess he wasn't kidding. Tape black wire with black tape? You're killin' me. And....how does tape "fall off" ?
Last edited by 220/221; 10-05-2009 at 05:42 PM.
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10-05-2009, 05:50 PM
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don't let the smoke out!
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10-21-2009, 02:28 AM
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That ain't enough tape! Hell in my area, they make you wrap the damn wire pretty much the whole length that is exposed in the box. Sucks, but what can you do....
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10-26-2009, 08:10 PM
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I went back and terminated most of the branch circuits today (shunt trip range breaker didn't arrive) and I fixed the set screw connectors for you clowns.
There are still two violations but I'm not going to lose sleep over the white taped #6 and I will tear out the shelving on the right side if necessary (29")
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10-26-2009, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by goose134
Thank goodnes! Nice to have a little variety. I'm not sold on CH's new door setup. You have to work them like the Fonz. Whack the right corner and ....aaaaaaaayyyy.
Not mechanically important but my one criticism would be the connectors on the JB. Other than that, aces. |
Eek....I'm not too sold on CH to begin with. 
Glad he fixed the connectors though. I thought it was gonna be a long sleepless night for me.
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11-11-2009, 01:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goose134
Thank goodnes! Nice to have a little variety. I'm not sold on CH's new door setup. You have to work them like the Fonz. Whack the right corner and ....aaaaaaaayyyy.
Not mechanically important but my one criticism would be the connectors on the JB. Other than that, aces. |
I was opening one of those new panel covers once on a panel that another electrician had made up. One of his #12 wires had worked its way to the inner surface of the panel door by that clip you pull out next to the hinge. Somehow it pinched as I opened the cover and it shorted. There where about 30 people in that same area doing clean up and final prep for opening day, very loud commotion (It was a new upscale hotel). It popped so loud that everyone either froze or dove on the ground. For the next few seconds you could hear a pin drop it was so quiet, all eyes were locked on me! 
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