panel mounting on a round light pole - Page 3 - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum

480sparky · 06-10-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 220/221

What a bunch of pussies. The media has some of you clowns afraid to take a dump without written permission. Worring about voiding a listing by strapping a 5 pound panel on the bottom of a big ass light pole is beyond ridiculous.

Someone, someday, somewhere could sue you for something at any time, but it aint likely if you are halfway smart.

I am not afraid to make my own decisions. I am not afraid of lawyers. I'm not even afraid of the IRS. Fuk them all

You're talking through your hat. The media doesn't have any effect on my thought process. I don't need anyone's permission buy my own to take a shít.

Will putting a 5-pound panel on this pole cause it to fall? Probably not. But the fact that you seem to think you'll never get sued won't prevent it from happening. And getting sued costs you money, even if you are 100% right from the get-go or not. You still must hire a lawyer and defend yourself. That costs money.

If you're halfway smart, you could mount the panel and hope for the best. If you're TOTALLY smart, you wouldn't and NEVER get sued.

THAT is the decision I would make. NOT because of the media, or lawyers, or the turds floating in the Pepsi Blue out in the kybo.

prldrp1 · 06-10-2009, 12:23 PM

whats missing here is the purpose of the panel in the first place. If your mounting a w/p panel to an object in a park etc. exposed to the general public your just asking for trouble, kids will be kids and nosey. The lights on those poles have to be controled from somewhere, most likely a storage/vending building, I would think that the customer would want the panel near all the other controls. In my years of work I have done atleast 15 Musco lighting jobs, and they would NEVER let me attach anything to their poles. A free standing lockable enclosure should be used in a public area and PLEASE ground EVERYTHING.About 10 yrs ago in a suburb here near Chicago, a little boy leaned against a lightpole at a park, at the same time put his feet against the fence going around the baseball fields and was instantly electocuted

220/221 · 06-10-2009, 01:17 PM

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The media doesn't have any effect on my thought process

You are in denial pal. The media affects ALL of our thoughts. It's what we do with the information that make you and I different. Your fear of the "law" is a learned behavior.

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Will putting a 5-pound panel on this pole cause it to fall? Probably not

Probably not? Probably not?

You are even afraid to say "certainly not...no way in hell...it aint gonna happen". That is a fact..... It's a no brainer...... You can take it to the bank"....and any other lame saying.

Listen, it's just my opinion that you are a bunch of pussies, afraid of your own shadow. It doesn't mean I'm right, it's just an observation. I am just an old guy who tends to speak his mind. Sometimes I am gentle, other times I can seem to find the right words to be PC.

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But the fact that you seem to think you'll never get sued won't prevent it from happening.

Not at all. If I get sued I will go to court and defend myself. I won't let the fear of a lawsuit keep me from living my life or doing my job. I KNOW what I am doing. If someone claims that I acted wrongfully I will deal with it.

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If you're halfway smart, you could mount the panel and hope for the best. If you're TOTALLY smart, you wouldn't and NEVER get sued.

1) I have never claimed to be more than halfway smart

2) Think about it. Smart people get sued WAY more than dumb people.

Use your brain, think about what you are doing and you will avoid liability issues. You want to cover your ass 100%?... stay inside.

480sparky · 06-10-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 220/221

You are in denial pal. The media affects ALL of our thoughts. It's what we do with the information that make you and I different. Your fear of the "law" is a learned behavior.

Probably not? Probably not?

You are even afraid to say "certainly not...no way in hell...it aint gonna happen". That is a fact..... It's a no brainer...... You can take it to the bank"....and any other lame saying.

Listen, it's just my opinion that you are a bunch of pussies, afraid of your own shadow. It doesn't mean I'm right, it's just an observation. I am just an old guy who tends to speak his mind. Sometimes I am gentle, other times I can seem to find the right words to be PC.

Not at all. If I get sued I will go to court and defend myself. I won't let the fear of a lawsuit keep me from living my life or doing my job. I KNOW what I am doing. If someone claims that I acted wrongfully I will deal with it.

1) I have never claimed to be more than halfway smart

2) Think about it. Smart people get sued WAY more than dumb people.

Use your brain, think about what you are doing and you will avoid liability issues. You want to cover your ass 100%?... stay inside.

Anyone wanna take this as legal advice?

If so, it's your funeral.......

480sparky · 06-10-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 220/221

You are in denial pal. The media affects ALL of our thoughts. It's what we do with the information that make you and I different. Your fear of the "law" is a learned behavior.

Probably not? Probably not?

You are even afraid to say "certainly not...no way in hell...it aint gonna happen". That is a fact..... It's a no brainer...... You can take it to the bank"....and any other lame saying.

Listen, it's just my opinion that you are a bunch of pussies, afraid of your own shadow. It doesn't mean I'm right, it's just an observation. I am just an old guy who tends to speak his mind. Sometimes I am gentle, other times I can seem to find the right words to be PC.

Not at all. If I get sued I will go to court and defend myself. I won't let the fear of a lawsuit keep me from living my life or doing my job. I KNOW what I am doing. If someone claims that I acted wrongfully I will deal with it.

1) I have never claimed to be more than halfway smart

2) Think about it. Smart people get sued WAY more than dumb people.

Use your brain, think about what you are doing and you will avoid liability issues. You want to cover your ass 100%?... stay inside.

Anyone want to take this as legal advice?

Go right ahead.... it's your funeral.

I guess I'm so extremely stupid I never get sued.

But that's OK. I'm also a jackass, immature, hack, moron, faker, fat, ugly, ass, whipping boy, and tool.

acmax · 06-10-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 480sparky

Anyone want to take this as legal advice?

Go right ahead.... it's your funeral.

I guess I'm so extremely stupid I never get sued.

But that's OK. I'm also a jackass, immature, hack, moron, faker, fat, ugly, ass, whipping boy, and tool.

Do you need a hankie, that's a whole lot'ta crying. It was sound advice you gave.I tend to be overly cautious in may ways and try to access things
to the situation. I would not tell a guy to do something I wouldn't be willing to do myself.Then again I wouldn't over stress something on a maybe or what if, those things I leave to God.

480sparky · 06-10-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by acmax

Do you need a hankie, that's a whole lot'ta crying. .........

Yes, please.

manchestersparky · 06-10-2009, 05:50 PM

All this talk about how to "rig" a panel to a light pole.
Is the job engineered or are you engineering it as you go?
What does the AHJ feel about you "rigging" a panel to the pole??

I think it would be better to build a stand next tot he pole myself.

220/221 · 06-10-2009, 07:38 PM

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Is the job engineered or are you engineering it as you go?

Now he needs an engineer?

You are cracking me up. We (electricians) field engineer things almost every single day. It's part of our job. I don't need someone with a degree to tell me that an installation like this could never, ever affect the structure. Save the engineer for real jobs.

I don't know how you guys ever get anything done.

acmax · 06-10-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by manchestersparky

All this talk about how to "rig" a panel to a light pole.
Is the job engineered or are you engineering it as you go?
What does the AHJ feel about you "rigging" a panel to the pole??

I think it would be better to build a stand next tot he pole myself.

You seem to be part of the problem at all times. An inspector comes to a job site to see if things are done to his established jurisdiction.Anything
else is a power trip.And the use of the word (rigging) shows your lack of skill,being there are no ropes or pulleys involved with this installation.

steelersman · 06-10-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 220/221

What a bunch of pussies. The media has some of you clowns afraid to take a dump without written permission. Worring about voiding a listing by strapping a 5 pound panel on the bottom of a big ass light pole is beyond ridiculous.

Someone, someday, somewhere could sue you for something at any time, but it aint likely if you are halfway smart.

I am not afraid to make my own decisions. I am not afraid of lawyers. I'm not even afraid of the IRS. Fuk them all

Now god damnit you may have just come out of the closet with that "football sucks" statement but I'm with you on this one! What a bunch of candy assed wimps! I don't pay attention to **** like this either. There's not enough time in the day for me to worry about this type of crap. Just do it and move on.

InPhase277 · 06-10-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by steelersman

Now god damnit you may have just come out of the closet with that "football sucks" ...

It is usually spelled "goddammit..."

steelersman · 06-10-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by InPhase277

It is usually spelled "goddammit..."

sorry I'm not good at spelling. Particularly curse words.

KEI · 06-10-2009, 08:59 PM

Hey, I really appreciate all the information, but all this backbiting going on is riduculous. Some of you guys need a hobby

480, I appreciate your suggestion on contacting the manufacturer, and I did.

I got an "ok" to attach the panel to the pole using "u-bolts". I took the dimensions to the machine shop today, and will have them next week. (8) 12.5" u bolts = $96

Also, Thanks for the u bolt idea drsparky!

acmax · 06-10-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KEI

Hey, I really appreciate all the information, but all this backbiting going on is riduculous. Some of you guys need a hobby

480, I appreciate your suggestion on contacting the manufacturer, and I did.

I got an "ok" to attach the panel to the pole using "u-bolts". I took the dimensions to the machine shop today, and will have them next week. (8) 12.5" u bolts = $96

Also, Thanks for the u bolt idea drsparky!

More work would certianly take the edge off the knife.This was a good post thanks . Good luck,be safe.

LawnGuyLandSparky · 06-11-2009, 04:08 AM

I wonder is 2 x 4's are listed for attaching panels?

steelersman · 06-11-2009, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky

I wonder is 2 x 4's are listed for attaching panels?

hahaha! Good point. I hate the talk about listings. I don't pay attention to that stuff or give it much thought. There's too much other crap for me to be worrying about.

InPhase277 · 06-11-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by steelersman

hahaha! Good point. I hate the talk about listings. I don't pay attention to that stuff or give it much thought. There's too much other crap for me to be worrying about.

You mean like a big studly quarterback running your tightend?

steelersman · 06-11-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by InPhase277

You mean like a big studly quarterback running your tightend?

No, I'm too busy worshipping things that don't exist.

LJSMITH1 · 06-11-2009, 02:43 PM

The only time anybody seems to 'worry' about a listing is when they get a red tag by the AHJ. The AHJ has the final call on any install, and I am sure they could make your life very difficult to 'move on' without fixing those silly, non-listed, product applications.

By implying that the listings don't mean squat, infers that the NEC is troublesome as well - so why even pay attention to that?

Heck...everyone here is an "expert" and you can do things as you see fit - no matter what anyone esle thinks. Who needs those rules and regulations anyway??