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06-06-2009, 07:39 AM
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Rate my Panel- Apprentice <6 MO experience
I have about 6 mo experience as a helper (not laborer) and changed the panel at my parents house last weekend. Previous panel was Bryant, overcrowded, doubed up on most breakers and sloppy.
On with the pics
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06-06-2009, 07:50 AM
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why the loop-de-doos in the feeders?
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06-06-2009, 07:54 AM
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Keep up the good work- looks very nice. Why is there a ground bar outside the panel with nothing attached?
Also is the #4 strandard for the electrode conductors. Hard to tell but it looks like #6
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06-06-2009, 07:57 AM
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looks o.k. to me . i can live with the loop-de-loops. you got noalox under them lugs??????? hard to see it. yes i know you dont have to gob that stuff all over the panel. 
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06-06-2009, 07:59 AM
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I agree, looks great.
I used to do those loops, but stopped years ago.
All I use in my immediate area for GECs is #6. There are some localities around me that do require #4.
Dennis, are you required to use #4.
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06-06-2009, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey
I agree, looks great.
I used to do those loops, but stopped years ago.
All I use in my immediate area for GECs is #6. There are some localities around me that do require #4.
Dennis, are you required to use #4.
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Based on 250.66 you must use #4 unless it is to the ground rod. I was thinking water pipes
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06-06-2009, 08:11 AM
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why the loop-de-doos in the feeders?
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technically those aren't feeders as they aren't supplied by a breaker.
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06-06-2009, 08:15 AM
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technically those aren't feeders as they aren't supplied by a breaker.
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Technically you capitalize the first letter of the first word in a sentence. 
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Technically you capitalize the first letter of the first word in a sentence. |
True. Technically, you're gay!  But I love you anyway!
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06-06-2009, 08:21 AM
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Loops are in consideration of the next person in the panel. Ever work on a panel with the feeder too short? It allows for the main to be made up again if it burns up. I recycled the old ground bus to terminate catv/phone utilities. Yes noalox was used and gec is #6
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06-06-2009, 08:24 AM
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Loops are in consideration of the next person in the panel. Ever work on a panel with the feeder too short? It allows for the main to be made up again if it burns up. I recycled the old ground bus to terminate catv/phone utilities. Yes noalox was used and gec is #6
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Is the #6 going to a water pipe?
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06-06-2009, 08:32 AM
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Good catch guys yes all gec are #6 ill run #4 to the water main before inspection (service is existing but i will bring to code)
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06-06-2009, 08:38 AM
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Your work looks really good.
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06-06-2009, 08:38 AM
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What is the ground bar mounted outside of the panel on the wall? Is it for intersystem bonding?
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06-06-2009, 08:40 AM
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Why is there a ground bar outside the panel with nothing attached?
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Good question.
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06-06-2009, 09:09 AM
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I recycled the old ground bus to terminate catv/phone utilities.
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This is what the ground bar is for. 
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06-06-2009, 09:17 AM
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Quote:
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Based on 250.66 you must use #4 unless it is to the ground rod. I was thinking water pipes
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Ah, I see. Good point.
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06-06-2009, 09:17 AM
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This is what the ground bar is for. |
dont the ground bar have to be mounted on isolator type stand-off??? we normally put ground bars on stand-offs for tel/data boards in comm work.
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06-06-2009, 09:18 AM
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Good catch guys yes all gec are #6 ill run #4 to the water main before inspection (service is existing but i will bring to code)
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So did you do this job under your boss?
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06-06-2009, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
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This is what the ground bar is for. |
And what good does it do if there is no wire from the panelboard attached to it?
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