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11-03-2009, 04:02 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: pa
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a scary federal pacific photo
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3...ralpacific.jpg
first post and not sure how else to share a pic
Everyone talks about explaining to home owners that deferal pacific panels are dangerous. this pic should be a good selling point if you show a customer,
this panel was in my girlfriends aunts house the fire didnt spread anywhere else because the panel cover was on tight (i think) anyway the big melty spot is where the 100 amp main was
the photo was taken after it was torn off wall
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11-03-2009, 04:04 PM
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yikes.
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11-03-2009, 04:15 PM
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Cheap resi crap...  Let me guess, either the bus couldn't handle the ampacity or the breaker didn't open on an over load condition.
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11-03-2009, 04:19 PM
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Click on the  icon, and insert the photos' URL there:
What happened to the main breaker?
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11-03-2009, 04:30 PM
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it was so melted down it just kinda fell out and got thrown in a trash can while i was cleaning up and didnt know a pic was going to be taken. not really sure how the fire started home owner was at work and came home to no electric and a basement filled with smoke
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11-03-2009, 06:13 PM
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That looks like a catastophic event, such as a lightning strike, or other surge.
I have seen other brands of panels have similar meltdowns under those type of circumstances.
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11-03-2009, 06:13 PM
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Journeyman Wireman
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The problem is obvious. The original installer mounted the panel sideways.
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11-03-2009, 07:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazymurph
The problem is obvious. The original installer mounted the panel sideways.
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Yep, and on closer inspection...the electricity juice settled in the bottom side of the panel and caused it to fail.
Those panels are complete GARBAGE I don't know why they still sell them. 
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11-03-2009, 07:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnelectrician
Yep, and on closer inspection...the electricity juice settled in the bottom side of the panel and caused it to fail.
Those panels are complete GARBAGE I don't know why they still sell them. |
I have never seen a FP panel for sale around here 
Anyone else see a FP on sale??
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11-03-2009, 09:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Black4Truck
I have never seen a FP panel for sale around here
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The Canadian version is called Federal Pioneer and they very much do still sell panels using Stab-Lok breakers. No idea if the internal design of the breaker has changed though. That is a damn scary picture by the way.
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11-03-2009, 09:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vintage Sounds
The Canadian version is called Federal Pioneer and they very much do still sell panels using Stab-Lok breakers. No idea if the internal design of the breaker has changed though. That is a damn scary picture by the way.
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Even if they have changed the design of the breakers themselves, the system itself sucks lol. We already know that though...I just wish Schneider electric would drop the FPE line totally.
I don't think you are allowed to use FPE GFCI breakers in Ontario...not sure about this but I can remember having to install a small sub panel to house a different brand of GFI breaker whenever we hooked up a hot tub to an FPE panel to satisfy me and ESA.
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11-11-2009, 02:10 PM
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Hmm, looks like a normal everyday Federal Pacific Panel to me... Whats the problem?
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11-12-2009, 07:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimlock
Hmm, looks like a normal everyday Federal Pacific Panel to me... Whats the problem?
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I agree, those panels are junk! Square  is a good upgrade 
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