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06-25-2009, 09:51 PM
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Whose idea was it to build several large cities in the middle of a blistering desert anyway?
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Ask that in Jan/Feb 
This is how we cope with the heat here.
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06-25-2009, 11:17 PM
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#42
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Are you hiding behind your plants to get a shot of your neighbor's pool?
Looks nice. I could use one of those about now.
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06-26-2009, 06:35 AM
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Not Peter D
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I hate when I can't blame it on the helper.
FWIW I would have blanked it off the same way.
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06-26-2009, 11:33 AM
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How many folks would get inspector grief for bring the romex thru 1 fitting like shown ?
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06-26-2009, 11:40 AM
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Not Peter D
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Originally Posted by augie47
How many folks would get inspector grief for bring the romex thru 1 fitting like shown ?
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I think .....
'Wasting my time',
'Are you freaking serious?'
'Don't call me back till you get your crap together'
........ would all be expected phrases.
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06-26-2009, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Badger
I think .....
'Wasting my time',
'Are you freaking serious?'
'Don't call me back till you get your crap together'
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Bob, outside the Northeast, pretty much anything goes in residential. They treat interior wiring like we treat SE cable...
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06-26-2009, 12:25 PM
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They treat interior wiring like we treat SE cable...
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Except that we don't strap it, exposed, to the ouside of the building.
I post the pics just to let people know how things are done in a different region. I understand that you may get tagged on this technical foul but I'm still waiting for a good reason that it shouldn't be allowed.
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06-26-2009, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 220/221
Except that we don't strap it, exposed, to the ouside of the building.
I post the pics just to let people know how things are done in a different region. I understand that you may get tagged on this technical foul but I'm still waiting for a good reason that it shouldn't be allowed. |
I'm not sure there is a practical way to do it otherwise. There aren't enough KOs in the back of the panel to begin with. And if you did punch or drill enough, you still usually don't have enough slack to attach them to the panel one at a time. I don't see a big problem with doing the way you do. I have done it on interior panels on a couple of occasions due to structural reasons.
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06-26-2009, 12:46 PM
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People on this site even gripe about exposed romex  .. some of us still live in the real world.
Thanks for posting the pics 
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06-27-2009, 04:20 PM
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I still want to know why the panels out there are all on the outside of the home instead of the inside.
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06-27-2009, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nrp3
I still want to know why the panels out there are all on the outside of the home instead of the inside.
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So thieves can shut the power off before they rob the place.
Also, it makes it handy for hooligans on Hollowe'en.
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06-27-2009, 04:54 PM
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child please.....
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Originally Posted by nrp3
I still want to know why the panels out there are all on the outside of the home instead of the inside.
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why?....because that the way they wired it 50 years ago...
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06-27-2009, 05:08 PM
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I suppose because its dry out there, things survive well. I go to visit my parents in Ft Mohave and wonder why their panel isn't facing into garage instead of towards the neighbors. Then again, thats better looking than in a living room or somewhere else that doesn't look good. You don't have basements like we do.
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06-27-2009, 06:14 PM
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I think I read on the NACHI forum one time that, in the case of Florida, many of those homes started out as seasonal homes. Cottages, if you like. As such, there wasn't much wall space indoors that homeowners were willing to give up for mounting the electrical panel. That was explained to be the reason why most of them were mounted on the outside of the home. It sorta became the traditional way to wire the smaller Florida home after that, even if there was wall space available inside.
I don't know much about the history of communities in AZ, but I might guess the reasoning was much the same there too. An 'all in one' service sure is fast, and from the cost of those meter bases there, it saves money. I think 220/221 said that these 200 amp meter cans with a 40 space panel only cost about $125 bucks at the hardware store.
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06-27-2009, 06:24 PM
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Not Peter D
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Originally Posted by MDShunk
I don't know much about the history of communities in AZ, but I might guess the reasoning was much the same there too. An 'all in one' service sure is fast, and from the cost of those meter bases there, it saves money. I think 220/221 said that these 200 amp meter cans with a 40 space panel only cost about $125 bucks at the hardware store.
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Me being the gigantic nerd that I am, I've gone on HD's "contractor services" website in the past and typed in zip codes for various southwestern cities to check out the selection of all-in-one services available. 
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06-27-2009, 07:01 PM
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child please.....
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I see some "all in one" main lug panels, but never main breaker.
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06-27-2009, 07:10 PM
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If not main breaker, then where is the main?
$125 is around what I usually pay for a regular 40 space main breaker panel. I usually get my meter cans for free from the utility though.
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06-27-2009, 07:34 PM
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child please.....
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Originally Posted by nrp3
If not main breaker, then where is the main?
$125 is around what I usually pay for a regular 40 space main breaker panel. I usually get my meter cans for free from the utility though.
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They don't have a bolt-on main...just use a regular stab-on main on a main lug panel
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06-27-2009, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
They don't have a bolt-on main...just use a regular stab-on main on a main lug panel
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Where do you get 200a stab-ons?
And hopefully, you use a listed method to secure them.
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06-27-2009, 08:01 PM
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child please.....
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The whole point of that panel in NOT to have to use a 200 breaker...i'd use a 125 or a 100 and bring all of my bigger loads into that panel, and use the sub panel as lighting and general use...secure them?...i'm not back-feeding the breaker, the buss is always hot, so i don't have to use a hold down kit....right?
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