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Old 06-12-2019, 03:24 PM   #1
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RJ45 connections in particular are a real PITA.

I have a friend who can do data connections in his sleep. He’s Asian, though, so he has the right genes. For the rest of us, how do you make those connections without copious amounts of profanity and throwing things at the wall?
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Old 06-12-2019, 04:06 PM   #2
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Get the new pass through connectors. They rock!
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Avoid terminating in plugs! Terminate in jacks. Jacks are still fiddly little things but far superior to plugs.



When you must terminate in plugs, use the plugs that let you push the wire out through the front of the jack where you can verify your pinout is correct before you crimp.
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Don't make up male plugs at all.

All the building wiring should be terminated into female jacks, whether it be wall plates or patch panels. Then buy patch cables, which are super cheap.
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Avoid terminating in plugs! Terminate in jacks. Jacks are still fiddly little things but far superior to plugs.



When you must terminate in plugs, use the plugs that let you push the wire out through the front of the jack where you can verify your pinout is correct before you crimp.
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can you post a link, splatz?
Sure.

The Ideal is super nice.


https://www.idealindustries.ca/produ...ation-kit.html


But remember, plugs only when forced, stick to jacks.
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In what situation are you installing data wiring in which you would want a male plug at the end of it?
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In what situation are you installing data wiring in which you would want a male plug at the end of it?

It comes up most often with cameras, a lot of them have a pigtail with a jack and a little gland nut that goes over your plug to make a water tight install.
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Remember those ideal jack are different for Cat5e and Cat6.
@HackWork we have to do it from time-to-time; mostly for POS machines, sometime we need them for cameras or other POE devices that are mounted on a box of some sort or there is not opportunity to mount a box.

The real answer is as suggested is to use a jack where possible; prefereably in some sort of rack too.

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Remember those ideal jack are different for Cat5e and Cat6.
@HackWork we have to do it from time-to-time; mostly for POS machines, sometime we need them for cameras or other POE devices that are mounted on a box of some sort or there is not opportunity to mount a box.

The real answer is as suggested is to use a jack where possible; prefereably in some sort of rack too.

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Gotcha. I didn't think of that.

The reason I asked is because I see a lot of people run a cable somewhere and then put a male plug on the end. Such as into a closet where a router is located.

IMO, it is best to use a small patch panel or even just a plastic box with a cover plate with rj45 female jacks. Mount it permanently, then use a patch cable to run to the device.
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I use a jack or patch panel where feasible, but for cameras and stuff I crimp an end on it. After a few hundred you get the hang of it. I strip back a good 4" of sheath to have plenty of room to get the wires lined up in the correct order, then snip them to length with dykes before I crimp a standard end on.
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I can do both the punch down connections and the male crimp on ends without issues.

I'm on a big job currently, and the wireless access points, intercoms, and cameras all have a male RJ45 connector on them. Everything else goes to a patch panel and uses patch cables to connect.

In fact I've gotten good at using the non EZ-rj45 connectors (I accidentally bought them) that I'll use them to save money of I have the time. The EZ-rj45 connectors are faster though, strip, straighten, arrange and crimp. No pesky task of ensuring the proper length before inserting.

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screw patch panels and punch downs. I put male plugs on both ends. The IT room end plugs directly into the server switch, eliminating punch downs on a server rack, and the need for jumpers.

The other ends, especially on cubes, come out the bottom of the cube, and directly into the phone or the puter.

I only use Ideal rg-45 jacks, from Home Depot. They have a concave slot which makes the wire go into the jack easier.
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buy or steal from the wife the sharpest pair of scissors you can find.

un-twist then straighten the wires (pull them between thumb and side of finger). Arrange them in order then pull on them and wiggle them so they lay flat. cut them to length then jam on the end and crimp. Ive done probably 20 today and touch wood they all tested good on the meter.
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buy or steal from the wife the sharpest pair of scissors you can find.

un-twist then straighten the wires (pull them between thumb and side of finger). Arrange them in order then pull on them and wiggle them so they lay flat. cut them to length then jam on the end and crimp. Ive done probably 20 today and touch wood they all tested good on the meter.
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RJ45 connections in particular are a real PITA.

I have a friend who can do data connections in his sleep. He’s Asian, though, so he has the right genes. For the rest of us, how do you make those connections without copious amounts of profanity and throwing things at the wall?
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In what situation are you installing data wiring in which you would want a male plug at the end of it?
The other scenario is lighting room controllers where the switches and sensors have a female rj45 jack on them.

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I like the pull through ones.
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The other scenario is lighting room controllers where the switches and sensors have a female rj45 jack on them.

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Even then, I have still punched down into a patch panel or small set of jacks, and then used patch cables.
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