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Old 01-21-2020, 09:33 AM   #1
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I don’t do a lot of data and it’s a PITA. It doesn’t help that my fingers don’t work and I’m half blind.

I bought some pass-through RJ45 jacks. What it means is that you can strip the cable long, push the wires through the jack and then cut them to the proper length. Makes the job an easier PITA.

Anyway, probably no big deal but I thought I would share because that’s the kind of guy that I am .
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You are talking about the male plug end, correct?

I remember seeing that style many years ago, I believe it was EZ or something.

I still think you’re better off always terminating into a female RJ45 jack, then use a premade patch cable.
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Those things rock. Over the holidays I reterminated every cable in our place. Part I like the most is the jacket comes out perfect every time instead of guessing how much to strip.

I don't have the newer crimp tool which will shave those wires off flush so I push through about 1/8" too far, cut them all even, then pull it back the 1/8" to get them perfectly at the face of the plug.

Works nice!
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Those things rock. Over the holidays I reterminated every cable in our place. Part I like the most is the jacket comes out perfect every time instead of guessing how much to strip.

I don't have the newer crimp tool which will shave those wires off flush so I push through about 1/8" too far, cut them all even, then pull it back the 1/8" to get them perfectly at the face of the plug.

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That’s what I did, cut them even and then pulled them back. My cheap Commercial Electric crimper doesn’t cut the wire but it was 27 loonies.
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You are talking about the male plug end, correct?

I remember seeing that style many years ago, I believe it was EZ or something.

I still think you’re better off always terminating into a female RJ45 jack, then use a premade patch cable.
That’s cheesy. Yes I am talking about the male jacks.
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I bought some pass-through RJ45 jacks. What it means is that you can strip the cable long, push the wires through the jack and then cut them to the proper length. Makes the job an easier PITA.
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You are talking about the male plug end, correct?

I remember seeing that style many years ago, I believe it was EZ or something.

I still think you’re better off always terminating into a female RJ45 jack, then use a premade patch cable.
I agree with both ... if you have to crimp plugs, use the EZRJ45 style, but don't crimp plugs unless you really have to.

jacks > plugs
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That’s cheesy. Yes I am talking about the male jacks.
I'm not sure what you mean.
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That’s cheesy. Yes I am talking about the male jacks.
This will be upsetting for Canadians, but jacks are female, plugs are male.
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This will be upsetting for Canadians, but jacks are female, plugs are male.
Nahhh ... We call those things on the wall 'Plugs'
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Small patch panels like this can be purchased for around $15:

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If that is too many ports or too large, then a typical single gang keystone plate with 1-6 jacks works well. This can be mounted in the wall with the wiring inside of the wall, or installed in one of Levitons surface mounted plastic low voltage boxes with the wiring strapped to the wall or inside of a raceway.

This is the demarcation between the building wiring and the user wiring. Then a patch cable is used to run from that female jack to the devices/switches/etc. Patch cables are extremely inexpensive, so making them yourself doesn't pay- especially if you have to use more expensive tools and material because the normal ones are hard for you to make.

I don't think that is cheesy, that is a typical installation that a low voltage pro would do.
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I'm not sure what you mean.
I’m talking about these.
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Small patch panels like this can be purchased for around $15:

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If that is too many ports or too large, then a typical single gang keystone plate with 1-6 jacks works well. This can be mounted in the wall with the wiring inside of the wall, or installed in one of Levitons surface mounted plastic low voltage boxes with the wiring strapped to the wall or inside of a raceway.

This is the demarcation between the building wiring and the user wiring. Then a patch cable is used to run from that female jack to the devices/switches/etc. Patch cables are extremely inexpensive, so making them yourself doesn't pay- especially if you have to use more expensive tools and material because the normal ones are hard for you to make.

I don't think that is cheesy, that is a typical installation that a low voltage pro would do.
You’re confused. That’s an inny, I’m talking about an outty.
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You’re confused. That’s an inny, I’m talking about an outty.
I'm not confused, you are.

The point is that you should not be making outties. There is very, very little reason for you to do so.
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The point is that you should not be making outties. There is very, very little reason for you to do so.
I make outies for lighting control, but for data distribution I agree, patch panels & premade patch cords are better.

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If I'm connecting 2 things on the same table, desk, rack or shelf, I'll use a patch cable. If I'm making a long distance connection, I break out the spool of Cat 5 and run my cable and terminate the ends. There's no way I'd buy a 100' patch cable to do a 60' run.
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If I'm connecting 2 things on the same table, desk, rack or shelf, I'll use a patch cable.
...that you purchased.

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If I'm making a long distance connection, I break out the spool of Cat 5 and run my cable and terminate the ends.
...into female jacks, then use patch cables that you purchased to connect those installed jacks to the devices you require on each end.

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There's no way I'd buy a 100' patch cable to do a 60' run.
Nor should you.
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You are talking about the male plug end, correct?

I remember seeing that style many years ago, I believe it was EZ or something.

I still think you’re better off always terminating into a female RJ45 jack, then use a premade patch cable.
Why would you create an extra connection? Just use the proper item to begin with.
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Why would you create an extra connection? Just use the proper item to begin with.
I’ve explain to you a few times what the “proper item” is, how the professionals do it.

If you want to do it like a handyman, you are free to.
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I’ve explain to you a few times what the “proper item” is, how the professionals do it.

If you want to do it like a handyman, you are free to.
Tell me why a professional would use the wrong connector and then put a dongle on it to make it right. Makes no sense.
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Tell me why a professional would use the wrong connector and then put a dongle on it to make it right. Makes no sense.
You can say that it makes no sense, but that’s not gonna change the fact that it’s the way that every professional out there does it. It’s the only way it’s done.

You never see tele-data cables coming through a hole in the wall and then terminating directly into any type of device. Not on either end.

If you see it done somewhere, then you know that it was done by somebody who didn’t know what they were doing.
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