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Old 03-20-2019, 03:11 PM   #21
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As do half the kids nowadays, my own included.

Bingo!

I think this is more relevant these days than ever before.

Everyone gets offended over everything!
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:49 PM   #22
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I think my big boss has only nodded at me. I wouldn't stress it honestly
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To whom it may concern (apprentices):

It is not your bosses job to walk around the jobsite, greet all the employees, and pat you on the back or butt to make you feel good. His job has more to do with getting you work and keeping you working, along with keeping you paid.

It is your job, on the other hand, to keep your nose to the grindstone, so noone should be seeing anything of you besides a$$holes and elbows. Keeping track of who is walking the job is definitely not in your job description, unless someone has instructed you to do exactly that.

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Thatís a really mean thing to say!
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I prefer not to be talked to at all.
Have higher ups who will by pass my supervisor to talk to me.
This only adds to the "Toxic work environment" with a www.gov job.
Quote; The work is not the issue, it's the people.
2yrs, 11months or sooner and gone.
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You're looking at this all wrong... you should be glad he's leaving you alone. On some level, that means you're doing good enough in their eyes. Think about all the people who are in a job that they don't feel right for. There are plenty of people who get into a position where they manage people but aren't a big fan of it... these people, like anyone, do their job without getting more involved than they have to.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:55 PM   #28
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To whom it may concern (apprentices):

It is not your bosses job to walk around the jobsite, greet all the employees, and pat you on the back or butt to make you feel good. His job has more to do with getting you work and keeping you working, along with keeping you paid.

It is your job, on the other hand, to keep your nose to the grindstone, so noone should be seeing anything of you besides a$$holes and elbows. Keeping track of who is walking the job is definitely not in your job description, unless someone has instructed you to do exactly that.

just a thought

From a safety standpoint, you're supposed to be aware of your surroundings.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:18 PM   #29
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From a safety standpoint, you're supposed to be aware of your surroundings.
Yep, and ears work well for that, at least always did for me

Turning around to see if the boss winks at you doesn't fall into the safety category.


And Mech !! How could you be so mean ??
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I try to avoid guys I don't personally know on job sites. The guys you call out from the hall or apprentices and very concerned when the owner comes out to the site. This means they have a problem on the job.

I was an apprentice for 4 years at a shop and the owner would only talk to his bubba boys and the office staff.

Apprentices were lower than whale scat and wouldn't ever be found talking to Foreman, a General Foreman, a PM, or Superintendent. Ever.
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To whom it may concern (apprentices):

It is not your bosses job to walk around the jobsite, greet all the employees, and pat you on the back or butt to make you feel good. His job has more to do with getting you work and keeping you working, along with keeping you paid.

It is your job, on the other hand, to keep your nose to the grindstone, so noone should be seeing anything of you besides a$$holes and elbows. Keeping track of who is walking the job is definitely not in your job description, unless someone has instructed you to do exactly that.

just a thought
I do agree with you it's not his job. But that speaks strongly to the culture of my company on the management side.

Im not a residential sparky, so we definitely don't work like dogs unless we have to get the job done.
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This is the same guy who won't let you take a vacation?
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From a safety standpoint, you're supposed to be aware of your surroundings.
Assholes on the left - check- elbows on the right -check- good to go
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Ive worked for this company for 2 years now and every time he comes to the site he avoids all eye contact with me and ignores me at all costs. Im only an apprentice so I report to my journeyman and rarely talk to the boss. But, I just find it disrespectful that he doesn't even acknowledge a long time employee who never calls in sick or misses any days.
I worked for a company for 5-1/2 years and I'd bet in that time the boss did not say more than 1/2 dozen words to me. Did not affect my paycheck or my ego.
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Ive worked for this company for 2 years now and every time he comes to the site he avoids all eye contact with me and ignores me at all costs. Im only an apprentice so I report to my journeyman and rarely talk to the boss. But, I just find it disrespectful that he doesn't even acknowledge a long time employee who never calls in sick or misses any days.
I worked for a company for 5-1/2 years and I'd bet in that time the boss did not say more than 1/2 dozen words to me. Did not affect my paycheck or my ego.
...but is that how you would run your business? Attaboys go a long way, JMHO.
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When I was young and couldn't understand why the guy worked for was so difficult I asked the owner and basically told me to suck it up and deal with it, don't take it personally. Now that guy is a customer and can be just as difficult. Then again, if wanted a raise, I walked in and asked for it and got it, when I wanted a van and brought one for them to see from the dealership, they bought it over the phone before I returned it. We still have some tense conversations and occasionally, though not lately, have had to tell him he's stepped over the line. If you are still there and the pay checks are coming in, chances are, you are doing just fine. Everybody likes to be liked and be respected, but just keep doing what you are doing. If you are doing well, it'll get noticed. Don't be afraid to speak up for yourself, but be tactful and think about where, when, how and who you do it with.
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...but is that how you would run your business? Attaboys go a long way, JMHO.
Not at all I try and make the new hires feel comfortable and I am always interested on why they want to be electricians.

Had a guy tell me he wanted to be an electrician since he was 9, that was 30 years ago he is one of my top men. I was discussing this with my ex-business partner he worked with this guy for 25 years and he never knew that even.

Most people (NOT ALL) like to feel welcomed.

BUT -Some people are A-holes, shy, busy thinking, worried about a project outcome, have family issues, we are all different.
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Ive worked for this company for 2 years now and every time he comes to site he avoids all eye contact with me and ignores me at all costs. Im only an apprentice so I report to my journeyman and rarely talk to the boss. But, I just find it dis respectful that he doesn't even acknowledge a long time employee who never calls in sick or misses any days.
Go watch the movie Moneyball.

Brad Pitt explains the relationship between Upper Management and baseball players pretty well. He doesn't watch the games, doesn't want to get personal with players for specific reasons..... It's business, and can't be personal.


As an employee of a whopping 2 yrs, you're not expected to understand this.
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