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Old 09-09-2019, 10:45 PM   #61
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Do you really want to come home from work and have to work to make your basic stuff? I'd MUCH rather buy cheap Chinese stuff while sitting on my ass.
Yes I've wondered what these factories look like that can churn out prototypes then switch to production within a few weeks time after a few emails. Robots are only good for repetitive tasks, human labor is way more flexible, and they got us beat with labor costs.

I have my doubts that these factories could even exist in the US. China has some serious pollution problems.

I didn't mean be self sufficient prepper like, I meant what would it take to start a factory.
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:52 PM   #62
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Yes I've wondered what these factories look like that can churn out prototypes then switch to production within a few weeks time after a few emails. Robots are only good for repetitive tasks, human labor is way more flexible, and they got us beat with labor costs.

I have my doubts that these factories could even exist in the US. China has some serious pollution problems.

I didn't mean be self sufficient prepper like, I meant what would it take to start a factory.
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I didn't mean be self sufficient prepper like, I meant what would it take to start a factory.
Ok, I thought you meant you were going to come home from work and make your own cloths, and transistor radio, and whittle your utensils out of wood, etc.
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@TGGT, same here - I am very curious what the factories look like in China, the small production runs in particular. I have a feeling it's more because the Chinese job shops network effectively.

I have a friend with a small machine shop. If someone comes to him to make something, he might make it in house - he has a fair bit of equipment - but he might also sub it out to someone with the right machines. He knows what the equipment is needed to make things efficiently and who has that equipment. (He just deals with metal - he wouldn't know who to go to for a PCB or for textiles etc.)

I have spoken to people that have worked with Chinese manufacturing for more complicated products. I just spoke to one a couple months ago who is trying to make low cost stepper motors and linear actuators in China. He had me laughing hard about the **** show involved getting things done in China comes to. Bottom line, he learned that he wasn't going to change the Chinese, he was going to have to figure out how to impose some kind of quality control here once he had actual control.

We'll see whether he winds up making money. I think he's overlooked that once they can make them, they'll be selling his designs as knockoffs on Amazon alibaba and eBay. In my case, it just wasn't worth screwing around to save a few hundred dollars in a project, I enjoyed talking to him and went and bought a quality product.
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