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Old 12-31-2018, 01:52 PM   #1
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Return them and buy Knipex. They come smooth as glass from the factory.
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Take them back to the store. Even Milwaukee pliers work straight out of the package and they’re half the price.
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I've tried all the methods suggested here on the forum and have concluded that nothing works all that well. Return them if they are too tight and always take them out of the package first and test the tightness of the rivet before buying. Or buy any of the other brands out there - Milwaukee, Knipex, Greenlee, Channelock, Ideal, etc.
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I've tried all the methods suggested here on the forum and have concluded that nothing works all that well. Return them if they are too tight and always take them out of the package first and test the tightness of the rivet before buying. Or buy any of the other brands out there - Milwaukee, Knipex, Greenlee, Channelock, Ideal, etc.
IMO, the best method is to spray them with brake cleaner to remove all the grease/oil and then exercise the crap out of them. That helps smooth out the internal surfaces that rub together. Then afterwards re-apply good oil and you're done.

But it takes a lot of work, like sitting there opening and closing them for hours.
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I've had good success over the years using Hilti Spray lubricant in the joint, then work them open and closed to flush out any grease.. I don't think it took that long to do, if memory serves. Once they're loose, maintain them.. When (not if) you use them as a beater, use the right side to beat with.. If you use the side that you can see the center pin moving, eventually you'll wind up mushrooming it and they'll be stiff again..
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I've had good success over the years using Hilti Spray lubricant in the joint, then work them open and closed to flush out any grease.. I don't think it took that long to do, if memory serves. Once they're loose, maintain them.. When (not if) you use them as a beater, use the right side to beat with.. If you use the side that you can see the center pin moving, eventually you'll wind up mushrooming it and they'll be stiff again..
This is SOOO damn true.

Most people use the side with the cutters because the entire face of it is solid, but that side is where the center pin comes thru. When you hit something you "stake" the metal, which makes it harder to open/close.

You have to use the side with the opening, there is less meat on that side to hit with, but the pin is solid there so no worries about making them harder to operate.

Here is an example of staking something. It's an extreme example, but it shows what happens with pliers if you hit with the wrong side:

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I've had good success over the years using Hilti Spray lubricant in the joint, then work them open and closed to flush out any grease.. I don't think it took that long to do, if memory serves. Once they're loose, maintain them.. When (not if) you use them as a beater, use the right side to beat with.. If you use the side that you can see the center pin moving, eventually you'll wind up mushrooming it and they'll be stiff again..

I know this is an unpopular opinion among electricians, but Estwing makes a tool to keep from mushrooming your linesmans pliers
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Valve grinding compound does a nice job breaking in pliers. Apply it to the joint betwen the 2 halves of the pliers and work it up through the joint.
When it is lose enough wash it out with a lubricant. I use SLICK50. make sure you get it all out. Best of luck and happy new year.

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And it works well, when you have it nearby.
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I can't believe you people whack things with the flat of the pliers. That's totally awkward. You hammer with the narrow edge.
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I know this is an unpopular opinion among electricians, but Estwing makes a tool to keep from mushrooming your linesmans pliers
Estwing makes the BEST non-mushrooming implement .
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I've tried all the methods suggested here on the forum and have concluded that nothing works all that well. Return them if they are too tight and always take them out of the package first and test the tightness of the rivet before buying. Or buy any of the other brands out there - Milwaukee, Knipex, Greenlee, Channelock, Ideal, etc.
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WD-40 has worked for me before. Sad... Klein used to never have these problems... seemed to start around the late 90s.
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I can't believe you people whack things with the flat of the pliers. That's totally awkward. You hammer with the narrow edge.

Stamping says "M. Klein & Sons - Chicago, Ill U.S.A." Belonged to my wife's grandfather... looks like he was whacking a lot of things with the flat side!
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Return them and buy Knipex. They come smooth as glass from the factory.
What if you just are not ready for that kind of professional leap?
I can only seem to buy Klein Klein's and Channellock Channellock's
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And Channellocks. I think Channellocks made the linemans for Ideal at one point. The Channellocks are like ten dollars less and really nice...
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I can't believe you people whack things with the flat of the pliers. That's totally awkward. You hammer with the narrow edge.
I always hammer with the broad side, not the edge. But you have to hammer with the broad side that has the big cut-out in the cutter area, not the completely flat side.
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I always hammer with the broad side, not the edge. But you have to hammer with the broad side that has the big cut-out in the cutter area, not the completely flat side.
I never looked, I take it that's always the side that has the pin staked / peened in the hole, and not damaged because it doesn't rotate anyway...

But but but that's like slapping things instead of chopping them, or throwing like a girl, you aren't - I don't know - you can't wind up or something.
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I never looked, I take it that's always the side that has the pin staked / peened in the hole, and not damaged because it doesn't rotate anyway...
Yes, exactly.

I was taught that you never hit the little lineman guy (who is on the side with the cut-out in which the pin rotates on Klein pliers).

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But but but that's like slapping things instead of chopping them, or throwing like a girl, you aren't - I don't know - you can't wind up or something.
It's the same amount of force, but a broader head. The edge is rounded and more likely to slip off and hit your hand.
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