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Old 01-01-2019, 11:08 AM   #21
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I know this is an unpopular opinion among electricians, but Estwing makes a tool to keep from mushrooming your linesmans pliers
If it going to be more than tapping the plastic handle of a beater I'm going for the hammer.

Seeing a guy pound cable staples with his linemans just seems so wrong.
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Old 01-01-2019, 03:15 PM   #22
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Return them and buy Knipex. They come smooth as glass from the factory.
Everyone I work with calls my knipex knockoffs and cant believe Id spend the money blah Blah blah. Showed up yesterday and one guy had a pair in his pocket. They are substantially better than Klein, especially right out of the package.
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Everyone I work with calls my knipex knockoffs and cant believe Id spend the money blah Blah blah. Showed up yesterday and one guy had a pair in his pocket. They are substantially better than Klein, especially right out of the package.
That is probably the older guys who still think that American is better.

Hell, are Kleins even made in America anymore? Even if they are, they still aren't better than Knipex and many other foreign brands.
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Wire wrap one handle to a sawzall blade and squirt with WD. A minute on the trigger equals 10 years of use.

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Wire wrap one handle to a sawzall blade and squirt with WD. A minute on the trigger equals 10 years of use.

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That's a really good idea

Though I would recommend doing it without any lube first, that will smooth the mating surfaces better.
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Spray with any kind of lube and work out the old black grease. To really make them loose spray lube, oil wd-40 etc etc and put sand in the bottom. Finer grit sand works best but any will do and then open and close for a minute and lube again until they are clean. I typically just spray with any lube and work them for about 2-3 minutes and they are loose. No idea why people make a big deal about breaking them in.....its takes a few minutes..... big deal
Knipex blades chip over time making them useless while Klein mushrooms over time making them still good enough to work with other than smaller stranded wire because use use both brands to cut things other than copper or aluminum wire ie nails, screws, rebar mats etc etc
I prefer Klein
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That's a really good idea

Though I would recommend doing it without any lube first, that will smooth the mating surfaces better.
Life lesson from high school GFs: he who doesn't use lube the first time around may never have that chance again.
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Spray with any kind of lube and work out the old black grease. To really make them loose spray lube, oil wd-40 etc etc and put sand in the bottom. Finer grit sand works best but any will do and then open and close for a minute and lube again until they are clean. I typically just spray with any lube and work them for about 2-3 minutes and they are loose. No idea why people make a big deal about breaking them in.....its takes a few minutes..... big deal
Knipex blades chip over time making them useless while Klein mushrooms over time making them still good enough to work with other than smaller stranded wire because use use both brands to cut things other than copper or aluminum wire ie nails, screws, rebar mats etc etc
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If you can get sand in a plier joint it should open on it's own with out touching it.
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I agree. Ideal used to be rebranded Channelock pliers, now they are making them in house (so I was told by an Ideal rep.) I have a Channelock-made Ideal lineman's that are 15 years old and are actually the best pliers I have ever owned.
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I agree. Ideal used to be rebranded Channelock pliers, now they are making them in house (so I was told by an Ideal rep.) I have a Channelock-made Ideal lineman's that are 15 years old and are actually the best pliers I have ever owned.
They must be different than the pair I bought are home Depot. It could barely cut MC luminary cable that a klien could cut easily.

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They must be different than the pair I bought are home Depot. It could barely cut MC luminary cable that a klien could cut easily.

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Ideal brand? They haven't sold Ideal tools at Depot in a very long time. I bought mine at the wholesaler but I do remember when they had Ideal pliers at the Depot back in the late 90's, early 00's.
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Ideal brand? They haven't sold Ideal tools at Depot in a very long time. I bought mine at the wholesaler but I do remember when they had Ideal pliers at the Depot back in the late 90's, early 00's.
Now that I think about it, it was from Lowe's. They were on clearance so I decided to try them. I prefer klien.

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They must be different than the pair I bought are home Depot. It could barely cut MC luminary cable that a klien could cut easily.

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Try cutting mc with cable cutters. It doesn't pinch the ends and the jacket slides right off.

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50/50 mix of ATF and acetone. Like kroil but better and cheaper.

Best penetrator. ever.

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They must be different than the pair I bought are home Depot. It could barely cut MC luminary cable that a klien could cut easily.

Agreed!

I got a pair of them in a set of pliers I had picked up.

The cutting edges were such crap they have taken up residence in my automotive toolbox in my garage never to leave the old homestead.
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In lots of brands of tools you have to oil the joints and work them when first purchased and from time to time. Part of working with tools in taking care of them.

1. Use WD-40. REGULAR WD-40. None of the other BS they put out now. I've tried PB Blaster, lithium, silicone, 4-in-1, just about any kind of oil you can think of. Loosen them up with WD-40 as it works the best. Then, if in a humid or corrosive environment, go back and work some light oil into the joint the next day.

2. Alternatively you can work in a tad bit of transmission fluid. A guy at work did this with his ideal linesmen and they loosened right up. I was surprised and impressed.

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50/50 mix of ATF and acetone. Like kroil but better and cheaper.

Best penetrant. ever.
For a second I thought you changed subjects...lol!

Seems counterproductive to try and thin down something with the viscosity of transmission fluid, I've always used Liquid Wrench for a penetrant with great results.
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For a second I thought you changed subjects...lol!

Seems counterproductive to try and thin down something with the viscosity of transmission fluid, I've always used Liquid Wrench for a penetrant with great results.
Sea Foam Deep Creep is the best yet. Tried it a few weeks ago on some rusted wheel studs.
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Enough of the bickering. Lets keep gross stereotyping out of here... There is no need for that and it is inaccurate to say that every person from a particular place is.....whatever.

The forum does not need this negativism.
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Edited in respect for what Dennis said.

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