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Old 09-10-2019, 08:18 PM   #81
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Why? Because that's what you always used? Because that's what other electricians used? Because that's what they sell at the supply house? Name one thing Klein has that keeps you coming back. Quality damn sure isn't it.
I bought new Klein lineman and 9" dykes last March or April. They are already filled with small chips and deformation in the cutting blades, and I go out of my way to cut copper only with them. Klein is trash and that is a fact. I'm more than happen for them to lose market share to competitors. I think I will try the Southwire lineman's next. Can't be any worse than Klein.
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And surely you to need to watch your mouth Mr. What keeps you coming back to this forum? Quality posts coming from the amateur hour.....

And Southwire...... child please!

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I think I will try the Southwire lineman's next. Can't be any worse than Klein.
Do you mean the made in USA one? I saw it at Lowes. Someone here tried it and liked it, maybe @460Delta? It's $40 for the made in USA Southwire, and $37.50 for the Southwire import.

The Channellock is $27.

https://www.amazon.com/Channellock-3.../dp/B0002FT612

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And Southwire...... child please!

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I see.
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Do you mean the made in USA one? I saw it at Lowes. Someone here tried it and liked it, maybe @460Delta? It's $40 for the made in USA Southwire, and $37.50 for the Southwire import.

The Channellock is $27.

https://www.amazon.com/Channellock-3.../dp/B0002FT612

Yes, the made in USA ones.
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Klein blows. I have never owned any Southwire tools, but I guarantee they can't be worse than Klein. End of story.
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Klein blows. I have never owned any Southwire tools, but I guarantee they can't be worse than Klein. End of story.
This conversation is over. I thought you were all right but apparently you have an attitude and are discriminating againts Klein tools. I'm on to you guys.

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I bought new Klein lineman and 9" dykes last March or April. They are already filled with small chips and deformation in the cutting blades, and I go out of my way to cut copper only with them. Klein is trash and that is a fact. I'm more than happen for them to lose market share to competitors. I think I will try the Southwire lineman's next. Can't be any worse than Klein.
And these are 2000 series?

Mine just go on and on -- even attacking mild steel -- like #12 drop wire.

The regular stuff takes a hit -- no doubt about it.
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And these are 2000 series?

Mine just go on and on -- even attacking mild steel -- like #12 drop wire.

The regular stuff takes a hit -- no doubt about it.

If you bought them back in 2000, maybe they are alright. But I started noticing the slide in 2008 or 09. I kept giving them the benefit of the doubt until I couldn't stand it any longer.
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This conversation is over. I thought you were all right but apparently you have an attitude and are discriminating againts Klein tools. I'm on to you guys.

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I wonder why the 10.5 is cheaper?



https://www.amazon.com/Channellock-3...70&s=hi&sr=1-1


I would buy these as a backup pair if they price drop.





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Do you mean the made in USA one? I saw it at Lowes. Someone here tried it and liked it, maybe @460Delta? It's $40 for the made in USA Southwire, and $37.50 for the Southwire import.

The Channellock is $27.

https://www.amazon.com/Channellock-3.../dp/B0002FT612
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Look these are even cheaper

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004SBD6..._t1_B0096PEC90

Maybe it's the fish tape puller? Which I do use sometimes.

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I wonder why the 10.5 is cheaper?



https://www.amazon.com/Channellock-3...70&s=hi&sr=1-1


I would buy these as a backup pair if they price drop.
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My Southwire linemans are holding up well and I really like them, I'm guessing they are in actuality Channellock brand with different handle plastic. Better than my Kleins.
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This conversation is over. I thought you were all right but apparently you have an attitude and are discriminating againts Klein tools. I'm on to you guys.

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My Southwire linemans are holding up well and I really like them, I'm guessing they are in actuality Channellock brand with different handle plastic. Better than my Kleins.
They are pro America pliers.

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One thing I noticed about the Southwire made in USA linemans pliers, odd shaped crimp lug, but it looks like it can crimp a little tighter than most - less space in the closed position. I don't know if that's good or bad.
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One thing I noticed about the Southwire made in USA linemans pliers, odd shaped crimp lug, but it looks like it can crimp a little tighter than most - less space in the closed position. I don't know if that's good or bad.
It’ll smash the fire out of a Buchanan tophat with two 14 awg wires in it, good in my book.
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It’ll smash the fire out of a Buchanan tophat with two 14 awg wires in it, good in my book.

That's what I was wondering! With two small wires the lug on the Ideal can leave it a little loose.
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It’ll smash the fire out of a Buchanan tophat with two 14 awg wires in it, good in my book.
Aren't those insulated? I thought you weren't supposed to use that style of crimper on insulated crimps?

When looking at standard crimpers, it shows that style crimper die for uninsulated crimps. The die for insulated crimps is basically an outward circle on each side instead of having the tit on one side.

So confusing....
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