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Old 07-12-2009, 08:16 AM   #21
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ive been trying out some of the greenlee tools. they are surprisingly durable, the rubberized handles are more comfortable than their klien counterparts, and seems to be as durable if not more so. for about 10 to 15 bucks less a pop, depending on the tool.the screw drivers are about the same basically a klien with green instead of yellow, but ive noticed alot of guys out their ruining screw drivers are using them like apes, they make different sizes and shapes for different applications, you cant expect a finish driver to work like a crowbar or a chisel. not to insult anyone or step on any toes, but the next time you break something take a step back and look at what your using the tool for.
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ive been trying out some of the greenlee tools. they are surprisingly durable, the rubberized handles are more comfortable than their klien counterparts, and seems to be as durable if not more so. for about 10 to 15 bucks less a pop, depending on the tool.the screw drivers are about the same basically a klien with green instead of yellow, but ive noticed alot of guys out their ruining screw drivers are using them like apes, they make different sizes and shapes for different applications, you cant expect a finish driver to work like a crowbar or a chisel. not to insult anyone or step on any toes, but the next time you break something take a step back and look at what your using the tool for.
good point. BUT i would think a professional quality tool should be able to take a little more than the DIY stuff. btw, welcome.
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ive been trying out some of the greenlee tools. they are surprisingly durable, the rubberized handles are more comfortable than their klien counterparts, and seems to be as durable if not more so. for about 10 to 15 bucks less a pop, depending on the tool.the screw drivers are about the same basically a klien with green instead of yellow, but ive noticed alot of guys out their ruining screw drivers are using them like apes, they make different sizes and shapes for different applications, you cant expect a finish driver to work like a crowbar or a chisel. not to insult anyone or step on any toes, but the next time you break something take a step back and look at what your using the tool for.
Yes I'm a regular gorilla, imagine me being stupid enough to try to tighten a 3/4 connector with a Klein #2 phillips.
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wow a fellow mainer, when tools cant live up to their most basic uses, than there is a serious issue, i wasnt trying to insult anyone, just saying that alot of tool breakage issues arent actually quality related.

also i agree that if yor paying 15 bucks for a screw driver you should be able to get more use out of it than a 2 dollar POS Home Desperate knock off.
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I have the same collection as most here a few busted flat heads, more #2 phillips than I care to think about, and an awl that the tip snapped off going into a 2x4. Not to mention a pair of dikes that the grips kept coming off. I also gree with who ever said the nutdriver handles are too small for men's hands.
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I'm actually suprised that klein tools aren't made out of depleted uranium.

I actually kind of like craftsman screwdrivers, but I feel funny using them for electrical work. I did try a pair of craftsman linesmans but I wasn't happy with them, and since I jut blew a hole in my kleins I guess I'm gonna try something new (even though I don't really have a problem with klein dikes at all)
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Old 07-12-2009, 12:52 PM   #27
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... but ive noticed alot of guys out their ruining screw drivers are using them like apes, they make different sizes and shapes for different applications, you cant expect a finish driver to work like a crowbar or a chisel. not to insult anyone or step on any toes, but the next time you break something take a step back and look at what your using the tool for.
You might actually have a point if it wasn't for this simple fact... Klein used to be able to take the abuse.

When I break a tool, quite often it might be for a reason that the manufacturer might call abuse, or a use for which the tool was not intended. Well, to that I say, listen to your customer base Klein. For efficiency's sake, I'm hard on my hand tools. I'm going to abuse them to a certain extent. Your tools used to be famous for being able to stand up to the abuse and that's why I paid a premium for them. They can't cut the mustard anymore, so there's really no compelling reason for me to buy them in the future.

I don't need a screwdriver that can turn screws. I need a screwdriver that can turn screws with gusto!
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:47 PM   #28
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Those stanley fat max screwdrivers look nice.
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I really dislike the new Klein screwdrivers. Mainly the stupid "sticky" rubber they use on the handles. Haven't had a tip break on me yet though.
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ideal makes good klein replacement screwdrivers
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Old 07-13-2009, 01:04 AM   #31
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I havent had bad luck with my klein tools as you all are saying. I bought a good majority of my Kleins four years ago and everything I bought has held up, with the except of my losing a few here or there. In fact I just lost my needle nose this past weekend. Luckly I bought one a couple years ago when I thought I lost them then too lol.

Either way though, a Journeyman on my job just broke the entire shaft of the new J-man series screw driver. Granted I'm not sure how he was using it, but it seems there new lines suck.

I've hear Klein has started outsourcng a few specific tools to other countries to be made.

This isnt Klein, but I love my Knipex Aligator channelocks. So much better than the 'Channel Lock' brand. Alot lighter, more expensive, but they are a far superior product in my opinion. I dont mind buying a German tool, or any tool from anywhere if its going to hold up. I dont expect something to break after less than a dozen uses. I'd hope to get at least a good years worth of working with my tools before they wear out.

Also to all who use #2 phillips on your set screws, lose the phillips and invest in a #2 square tip, they work so much better and never strip out your screws.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:31 AM   #32
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Klein tools needs to work on their quality issues very soon, or they will loose more customers. Here is a list of my tools that have broken in the past year.

I went through 3 #2x4" screwdrivers due to the tips stripping out

My 6" shaft nut drivers well there is only 4 left in the set, the 5/16" tip snapped off the shaft, the 1/4" stripped out, and the 7/16" shaft actually well the handle cracked in 2 right where the shaft ends in the handle, it is now in 2 pieces, Ill have to get a picture of it.

The new pair of lineman pliers I purchased a year ago and the teeth seem to be worn down already.

In one day my 1/4" keystone tipped square shaft screw drivers shaft snapped in 2 places.
In that same day my 5/16" keystone tipped round shaft screw driver snapped in 3 places/

I switched to all Channellock for pliers and craftsman for screwdrivers, at least when they break they will honor the warranty.
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I aways preferred Channel Lock Myself.
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I think the thread title should read "Klein quality dekleining????

Not that I have had many issues but I will be looking into Knipex and Wiha next go around.
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Those stanley fat max screwdrivers look nice.
Yeah, they look nice.
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Think I'll go with Acme. Always worked for the coyote. Then again guess they didn't.
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Think I'll go with Acme. Always worked for the coyote. Then again guess they didn't.
I buy all my anvils from Acme.
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I have a brand new pair of Klien Lineman 9's and this is the 1st week, and they are begining to fall apart, and are super tight.
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i hate it when the journeyman handles slip off. i never really had an issue with pliers other than that. the metal is very soft compared to knipex the screwdrivers are pretty crappy too. i broke a couple of them. reason why i love ideal screwdrivers is because they look like klein
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I bought one of their tape measures with the two magnets
on the end, and the tape split the second day I was using
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