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Old 09-30-2009, 06:07 PM   #1
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What is the difference between the cobra pliers (channel locks), and the alligator pliers?
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The adjusting mechanism. The alligator is a slip joint design and the cobra actually locks in place.
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which would you recommend?
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I personally like the cobras. I like the fact that if I'm say running 3/4 pipe I don't have to mess with them, I set them once and they're set for all day.

Some guys don't like the fact that you have to press the button to adjust them (too many moving parts I guess) but after useing them for about 5 years now I won't use anything else.
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I personally like the cobras. I like the fact that if I'm say running 3/4 pipe I don't have to mess with them, I set them once and they're set for all day.

Some guys don't like the fact that you have to press the button to adjust them (too many moving parts I guess) but after useing them for about 5 years now I won't use anything else.
100% agree!
Now, that said, I also have the new self-adjusting SmartGrip. They are awesome.

You also HAVE to get a Pliers-Wrench.
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100% agree!
Now, that said, I also have the new self-adjusting SmartGrip. They are awesome.

You also HAVE to get a Pliers-Wrench.
I saw the smartgrip the other day. Coming from knipex I'm sure they are top of the line. Have you had them long enough to put them through the paces?

I've got two pairs of the 16" cobras which have replace my old 460s, and I've also got a pair of 22" cobras, they are bad*ss.
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I can't say I've used/abused them real hard yet, but I do use them pretty much every day. They are holding up real well. They had better for what they cost.
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Did Channel locks sell out?

I never heard of "Knipex" till there was a thread running here for the past few days
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I never heard of "Knipex" till there was a thread running here for the past few days
Seriously?
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In my opinion and I have run a lot of rigid in my time Knipex are the best for running rigid. Channellocks the teeth will only last about 6 months and thin I would sharpen them with a file and they might last about 4 more months if you are lucky.
If all you are running is EMT the Channelllocks will last several years and they are not as expensive.
I use both and what ever comes out of the bucket first is what I use.
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Honestly?

I really like Channel lock, I feel like they're less fickle than the Alligator pliers.

My only complaint against Channellock are the few times I've pinched my fingers when torquing the tool. Plus, Knipex doesn't have the big ones Channellock, does.

Today, I had the best of both worlds, using both the 12'' Alligators, and the 12'' channellocks (which actually open up larger). Alligators are nice because they can cradle the shape of the coupling, but really, between the two, it's a toss up. I keep them both on me because I feel as if they're comparable.

Never had an issue with channel's teeth, either, and I've had mine for 2 years now.
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Honestly?

Plus, Knipex doesn't have the big ones Channellock, does.

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I have a pair of 22" knipex cobras, that's pretty damn big. I don't think I've ever seen a pair of chanel locks that big.

Just because I've never seen them doesn't mean they don't exist.
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I have a pair of 22" knipex cobras, that's pretty damn big. I don't think I've ever seen a pair of chanel locks that big.

Just because I've never seen them doesn't mean they don't exist.
That is pretty damn big.

But they're not alligators.

There is a slightly larger pair of alligators that I don't own, so I'm assuming they're comparable to what my 12'' channels are already able to achieve.
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That is pretty damn big.

But they're not alligators.

There is a slightly larger pair of alligators that I don't own, so I'm assuming they're comparable to what my 12'' channels are already able to achieve.
Yea it looks like in the alligators they make a 250mm and a 300mm. Thanks to google I know that is 10" and 12".
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Honestly?

I really like Channel lock, I feel like they're less fickle than the Alligator pliers.

My only complaint against Channellock are the few times I've pinched my fingers when torquing the tool. Plus, Knipex doesn't have the big ones Channellock, does.

Today, I had the best of both worlds, using both the 12'' Alligators, and the 12'' channellocks (which actually open up larger). Alligators are nice because they can cradle the shape of the coupling, but really, between the two, it's a toss up. I keep them both on me because I feel as if they're comparable.

Never had an issue with channel's teeth, either, and I've had mine for 2 years now.
Actually Knipex has a 22" version that has a bigger capacity than the Big Ass from Channellock almost 5" pipe
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Actually Knipex has a 22" version that has a bigger capacity than the Big Ass from Channellock almost 5" pipe
I just discussed this with the other guy.

I'm referring to the Alligators, not the Cobras, which is what you're referring to.

If this is incorrect, link please.
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