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Old 03-18-2017, 06:52 PM   #21
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Those Klein DVMs are trash and dangerous.
I got one traveling for work and sold it not long after.
Leading a power crew I can't tell you how many times I get called to figure out something. With the 1st problem is their DVMs giving them bad readings.
Or when a JW says "I think the 480v is off, I'm not sure, I got a Klein meter".
I let them use my Fluke to be sure.
Talked to the steward. The contract has a DVM on the list.
Not much I can do if they carry a POS Klein.
Except to tell them to take pride in their work and watch out for their safety, but with POS testers they can't do either.
That's a rough call. The price of a good meter can be very rough on new guys just starting out. At the same time they should invest in a decent tester to know if power is on or off.
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Old 05-01-2017, 03:44 AM   #22
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See, you're not thinking like a stockholder. Electricians buy Klein products, and electricians use meters, therefore Klein should sell meters.

PROFIT!
Especially when Klein is simply getting B stock Extech and having there name printed on them. I am an Extech instruments supporter I do have Fluke as well but I am not as enraged if someone ends up damaging, losing or the misplaced(steals) it. I cant be the only one that notices the very close resemblance between the two. Klein needs to do something because they have been producing lesser quality and tools than in past with other brands flooding the market with decent options to the old goto( Milwaukee) for one. I think they need to stop with these gimmick tools or lets see how much crap they can put in an 11-n-1 or so on.
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That's a rough call. The price of a good meter can be very rough on new guys just starting out. At the same time they should invest in a decent tester to know if power is on or off.
Its not always the meter. Anyone recall the old Wiggys with the "exploding" plunger? Cause wasnt the design it was the user not following the instructions and over exposing it to voltage. DVM's have supposedly solved that but if you don't test-check-and re-test your meters or testers you are setting yourself up for accident no matter the brand.
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Especially when Klein is simply getting B stock Extech and having there name printed on them. I am an Extech instruments supporter I do have Fluke as well but I am not as enraged if someone ends up damaging, losing or the misplaced(steals) it. I cant be the only one that notices the very close resemblance between the two. Klein needs to do something because they have been producing lesser quality and tools than in past with other brands flooding the market with decent options to the old goto( Milwaukee) for one. I think they need to stop with these gimmick tools or lets see how much crap they can put in an 11-n-1 or so on.
There was a member here that was an EE that designed the Klein meters, I had a couple heated debates with him about 'rebranding' back then in email about these claims. Don't recall his name and not sure if he is still on here.

I've worked in a shop that supplied Extech meters, some how they never seemed to measure or hold up. Sometimes you just need to be as accurate in readings as possible.

Couldn't agree with you more on that!
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What happens is you can get ghost voltages from conductors run together. The energized ones induce onto the de-energised ones.
A modern digital wiggy tester puts a small load that causes the ghost voltages to disappear.

On some conventions we work with a lot of different distribution voltages with only a piece of tape to identify.
120, 208, 220, 277, 380, 460, 480.
You need something that is more exact than 4 hundred something.

The down side with the modern wiggy is it does not always work well around 12v with small wall wart size LED drivers and power supplies. If the power supply is a real low output the wiggy just causes it to overload and cut out.

Some of the testers out there the leads are junk and get a bad connection over time.

Less than $100:
http://www.transcat.com/fluke-t-pro-...FYmffgoddOoBBg
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Wow. Klein sells junk hand tools AND meters

I'm SHOCKED i tell you.


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This recall is from over 2 years ago. Why is it being posted again now??
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This recall is from over 2 years ago. Why is it being posted again now??
Chances are there are still some out there selling on eBay or what have you.

Not to also say there aren't guys that have problems with some of the newer ones.
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