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Old 02-22-2019, 07:32 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I am looking for tap and die sets for regular screw sizes, and also NPT sizes. A couple years ago I bought some kit off of amazon that was complete garbage, and the irwins that I can get locally are garbage as well. What do you all use?
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:41 PM   #2
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Well I’ve got both Snap-On and Mac brand taps and dies $$ but they are good. I think Fastenal has a premium line , Norseman maybe? I can’t remember the brand name now but they are good also.
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I buy either champion, Noresmen/CTD or Widia-GTD for taps and dies. Only thing Irwin I buy anymore are their straight and short spiral extractors.
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Get the checkbook out. You get what you pay for with these things. I got myself a set of Tekton tap and dies for Christmas. I haven't used them much yet. They seem okay.
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Years ago I went into Industrial Hardware and bought around two or three thousand 10-32 taps , the kind you can just put into a cordless drill. They were packed into little envelopes like buying little drill bits. Distributed them amongst my employee's I used to have. So anyway, at the end of being an employer I had around 200 left. Used em up one by one over the space of the remaining 27 years since then. I broke the last one about two weeks ago. Gonna have to re-open my account there again.
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I've got a large Craftsman set I've had for years that I don't always carry with me.

Also have several assorted smaller sets (Hanson, Morse, Ace, etc whatever brand Grainger has at the time) I bought them for a specific job.
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I've got a large Craftsman set I've had for years that I don't always carry with me.

Also have several assorted smaller sets (Hanson, Morse, Ace, etc whatever brand Grainger has at the time) I bought them for a specific job.
After strolling through Blowes, I wouldn’t buy a Craftsman pencil. Good name gone bad.
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I use the Greenlee drill tap set for day to day common screw sizes, 6-32, 8-32, 10-32, and 1/4 20. Comes in a little green plastic case. They work good, but as expected, brittle.
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I have heard the Norseman brand @460Delta and @Jlarson mentioned is excellent but haven't parted with the cash yet to try them myself. They have that brand on the Harry Epstein site which usually has good prices.

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Years ago I went into Industrial Hardware and bought around two or three thousand 10-32 taps , the kind you can just put into a cordless drill. They were packed into little envelopes like buying little drill bits.
I bought a couple of the Harbor Freight sets and compared them to the Greenlees which you can buy onesies. They look identical and I bet they come out of the same factory in China. The Greenlee are more expensive but I really only wind up going through the 10-32's.

I occasionally use the other ones to clean up threads but that works just as well with a tap screwdriver. Once in a while I tap a 1/4-20 hole but I break too many taps doing that with a drill or impact, I prefer to do those by hand with a tap wrench.

Ideal is making them now, I might check those out, they might actually be made in USA.
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I have a harbor freight store locally that I have been meaning to visit. I'll see if I can find some of those drill taps there and try them out.
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I have a harbor freight store locally that I have been meaning to visit. I'll see if I can find some of those drill taps there and try them out.
They are in the plumbing section.
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I need some hose pinch off pliers they have for another job, so I may head over there today after a couple of small jobs this morning.
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I use the Greenlee drill tap set for day to day common screw sizes, 6-32, 8-32, 10-32, and 1/4 20. Comes in a little green plastic case. They work good, but as expected, brittle.


I make sure everyone has a set of those and Im always on the lookout for 3/8" and buy whatever I can find.
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That sucks!

I still want a set of their pack out styled boxes.
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They are in the plumbing section.
Wonder how they figured that location?
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I make sure everyone has a set of those and Im always on the lookout for 3/8" and buy whatever I can find.
They make a 3/8" in this style tap?
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That’s a good question, I’d have to look on their website, 1/4 20 is the largest in that set and I don’t have much, if any use for the I think it’s the 12-24 that’s in there.
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There's a ridiculously huge difference in taps.


If you just need a threaded hole, any tap will do.


If you want a proper, tight fitting threaded hole, only a qualtity tap will suffice.


I don't like loose holes
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I have a harbor freight store locally that I have been meaning to visit. I'll see if I can find some of those drill taps there and try them out.
Unless they have changed I thought there stuff was made from Play-doh.
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Years ago I went into Industrial Hardware and bought around two or three thousand 10-32 taps , the kind you can just put into a cordless drill. They were packed into little envelopes like buying little drill bits. Distributed them amongst my employee's I used to have. So anyway, at the end of being an employer I had around 200 left. Used em up one by one over the space of the remaining 27 years since then. I broke the last one about two weeks ago. Gonna have to re-open my account there again.

I like the Kline tri-tap, now with 6 tap sizes LOL. Seriously, never chuck a tap up in a drill. It’s about 20X more likely to break and a 6-32 hole with a broken tap in it is a much worse problem than one that’s clogged with stucco or even stripped. For a stripped hole I just put a new hole next to it or enlarge it to 8-32

For a hole clogged with stucco, (6-32 or 8-32) there is no better tool than a bent Romex staple, bar none!
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