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Old 06-22-2009, 05:27 PM   #41
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I think it is really dumb to think your losing money putting plate screws on with a regular screwdriver.

If you're doing tract homes then it would only make sense to want to save as much time as possible wouldn't it? I mean it's not like you're making a killing on all the extras from a custom home that's not there if they are just tract homes. Or for me when I do a side job, I'm working for myself and I don't want to be there any longer than I have to so that's how I do it. I don't have to lug around a drill just to take out an outlet or plate or put them back in.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:37 PM   #42
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nope and i dont let anybody use a cordless drill for those screws.

every time somebody uses a drill to trim out a house the receptacles are set to far back or they keep breaking them. i got one helper that uses an impact gun to tighten up device screws. i never use drills to trim out just a screwdriver. my wrists dont hurt at the end of the day either

This is a training issue, not a drill issue. ANY tool can be used improperly and cost money instead of saving it.

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I spent an hour today trying to sell a service change..( he will let me know after talking to his wife) that was 3600 seconds.. how many plate screws it that?? .......
Then you spent 3,000 seconds too many.
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I spent an hour today trying to sell a service change..( he will let me know after talking to his wife) that was 3600 seconds.. how many plate screws it that??

I think it is really dumb to think your losing money putting plate screws on with a regular screwdriver.
its also faster to do everything live. why waste time searching for the breaker? there goes my profit down the tubes!
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its also faster to do everything live. why waste time searching for the breaker? there goes my profit down the tubes!

no need to search for the breaker when you can just short out the circuit.
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no need to search for the breaker when you can just short out the circuit.
try that on 480 volts you wont have any pliers left. or skin for that matter. i used to work with a guy that would do that and think hes wicked cool. i done it on an FPE breaker a few years ago and it scared me to death. t was wicked loud and shot molten copper everywhere.

i know we are all just kidding around but on a serious note its never a good idea to short wires out to find the breaker. might cause more problems than needed
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Are union workers banned from using cordless screwdrivers to install switches and outlets??
I have been using mine for years, both flat and philips for many things. Its a love it or leave it kind of thing. When Im trimming out a house all I need is a pair of strippers, and both of my whirly drivers.
And when im probing in a ceiling or wall cavity i use the flathead whirly driver to probe. The offset on it makes it a good tool for this.
I think its funny that some of you guys are getting so philisophical about it. All of a sudden the sky is falling because some dude likes to use it......
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If you're doing tract homes then it would only make sense to want to save as much time as possible wouldn't it? I mean it's not like you're making a killing on all the extras from a custom home that's not there if they are just tract homes. Or for me when I do a side job, I'm working for myself and I don't want to be there any longer than I have to so that's how I do it. I don't have to lug around a drill just to take out an outlet or plate or put them back in.
Dude its pointless to argue with some of these cats......
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I have been using mine for years, both flat and philips for many things. Its a love it or leave it kind of thing. When Im trimming out a house all I need is a pair of strippers, and both of my whirly drivers.
And when im probing in a ceiling or wall cavity i use the flathead whirly driver to probe. The offset on it makes it a good tool for this.
I think its funny that some of you guys are getting so philisophical about it. All of a sudden the sky is falling because some dude likes to use it......

I think some are just angry that they can't get the hang of it. I've seen many people try to use one and they end up poking a hole in the drywall when the blade slips off the screw from pushing too hard and not getting the action right.

Let's face it. Some are just more coordinated than others.
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i dont care if a guy uses his teeth to screw in a screw. just personal feelings posted here. i dont like using xtreme tools or "in 1" tools i like individual tools or new fancy tools that save pennies
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I think some are just angry that they can't get the hang of it. I've seen many people try to use one and they end up poking a hole in the drywall when the blade slips off the screw from pushing too hard and not getting the action right.

Let's face it. Some are just more coordinated than others.
there needs to be an electrician olympics

one event will be the whirlybird screwdriver contest, another event can see who can change the most 277 volt switches in the dark live without getting killed
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dont like using xtreme tools or "in 1" tools i like individual tools or new fancy tools that save pennies
This isn't some kind of "fancy" "new" or "extreme" tool. It's been out for at least 15 years since I've been in the trade, probably alot longer. And it isn't an "in 1" tool. It doesn't combine 2 or more tools. It's just plain old simple common sense. But let's face it, some of us just haven't evolved enough to utilize all of their dexterity.
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This is a training issue, not a drill issue. ANY tool can be used improperly and cost money instead of saving it.


It's a tool issue...
If the tools you hire can't use the tools you bought...
One of them two tools has to go.

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Dude its pointless to argue with some of these cats......
yep, they just get angry when they can't get it to work.
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... let's face it, some of us just haven't evolved enough to utilize all of their dexterity.

Who you calling a "knuckle-dragger"?




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Another time saver for me is when I'm twisting wires together I use my dykes instead of linesman's. It's way faster. I only use linesman's for twisting 3 or more #12's or 5 or more #14's. And I use them as a hammer in tight places.
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Who you calling a "knuckle-dragger"?

nobody in particular.
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Is this actually an argument about using screwdrivers?

Is it really that hard to utilize tools properly? Apparently it is.
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MAN some of you guys just loooove to argue about every freaking thing. This one just takes the cake. I have personally vowed to not insult or be rude to anyone anymore because this > dosent solve anything. Why cant we all just get along.....?
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It's a tool issue...
If the tools you hire can't use the tools you bought...
One of them two tools has to go.

Then this means I have to leave?
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