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Old 06-22-2009, 06:08 PM   #61
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:09 PM   #62
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Then you spent 3,000 seconds too many.
Since when is the a time limit on doing an estimate.. I must of missed the class
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Is this actually an argument about using screwdrivers?

Is it really that hard to utilize tools properly? Apparently it is.
It's not an argument about how to use them properly, but rather which tool works the fastest or best I would say.
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:10 PM   #64
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MAN some of you guys just loooove to argue about every freaking thing. This one just takes the cake. I have personally vowed to not insult or be rude to anyone anymore because this > dosent solve anything. Why cant we all just get along.....?
Yep. YOu're right. I'm tired of people arguing with me all the time.
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:15 PM   #65
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Yep. YOu're right. I'm tired of people arguing with me all the time.

calling someone a Fing moron is not really good way to get your point across I thought you were LawnGuy for a minute
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Since when is the a time limit on doing an estimate.. I must of missed the class
There really is a 'time limit' to do an estimate. If you spend far too long doing one, you'll never make money. The time you spend on an estimate is labor. The same labor you spend turning screws. The faster you turn screws, the more profitable you are. The faster you can do an estimate, the more profitable you are. Labor is labor, whether you're turning a cover screw or calculating it's cost.

Besides, you said you spend an hour trying to sell a service change, not figuring it up.

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I spent an hour today trying to sell a service change.......
If you can't sell a resi service upgrade inside of 10 minutes, it's time to go do something else a tad bit more profitable.
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calling someone a Fing moron is not really good way to get your point across I thought you were LawnGuy for a minute
You're right. I got carried away with that. Sorry.
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You're right. I got carried away with that. Sorry.
no problem..
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Are union workers banned from using cordless screwdrivers to install switches and outlets??
Banned? No.
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There really is a 'time limit' to do an estimate. If you spend far too long doing one, you'll never make money. The time you spend on an estimate is labor. The same labor you spend turning screws. The faster you turn screws, the more profitable you are. The faster you can do an estimate, the more profitable you are. Labor is labor, whether you're turning a cover screw or calculating it's cost.

Besides, you said you spend an hour trying to sell a service change, not figuring it up.



If you can't sell a resi service upgrade inside of 10 minutes, it's time to go do something else a tad bit more profitable.
Doing a service change can net $1000.00 profit for a days work where I am.

Why would I want to rush the estimate??

I get 90% of the jobs I bid on, but thanks for your concern I should try something else.
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i must be an fing moron too...take my license away before i use a straight blade screwdriver at your house.

im not girly enough to use a whirly bird screwdriver i guess

i see no good use to those screwdrivers. just another tool to spend money on. if somebody is worried about 1 second vs 1.5 seconds using a regular screwdriver then they must not of bid the job right or something

if somebody gave me one of those screwdrivers i would give it back and tell them never to speak to me again until they man up and buy a real screwdriver
OK For chrissakes it's just a screwdriver already. Shaddupabouddit.
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Lots of tools out there that I don't use.. doesn't mean they are not any good... I just use another tool. I buy a lot of tools that I never use, they look so good in the pictures I just have to have them...
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I spent an hour today trying to sell a service change..( he will let me know after talking to his wife) that was 3600 seconds.. how many plate screws it that??

I think it is really dumb to think your losing money putting plate screws on with a regular screwdriver.
Some contractors are always losing money, didn'tcha know? And if you;re not panting and sweating by the end of the day, you're a time and production thief.

In the grand scheme of things, the offset screwdriver won't get you an extra dime in your paycheck, so you invested in something that supposedly made you more productive, but actually got more money into your boss's pocket and less into yours. And YOU paid for it!
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The phillips swivel is my most used screwdriver.

Much lighter than a drill and better than a straight phillips.

I don't even have a straight phillips
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Doing a service change can net $1000.00 profit for a days work where I am.

Why would I want to rush the estimate??

I get 90% of the jobs I bid on, but thanks for your concern I should try something else.

So what happens to that $1k profit if you spend another 6 hours figuring it up?
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So what happens to that $1k profit if you spend another 6 hours figuring it up?
There is never even another 10 minutes.. the price it given and I never come down in price. Where does your 6 hours come from?

I will spend all the time needed to sell a job. This has always worked in my favor.

I don't advertise in the phone book or on Craigslist. Either someone saw my truck, the sign in front of my house, or a recommendation from a previous job.

I lose nothing by taking my time
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........I lose nothing by taking my time
So, how do you bill out 'taking your time'?
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