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Old 12-24-2017, 04:24 PM   #21
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I remember that. I also remember the absolute thievery that was taking place back then too.
not following...were people stealing rolls of romex?
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Old 12-24-2017, 04:39 PM   #22
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not following...were people stealing rolls of romex?

They were stealing anything made of metal, period. Wire, gutters, fences, flashing on buildings, the occasional high voltage line which didn't end well , you name it. On any given day there was a line of crack heads pushing shopping carts full of stuff scavenged from the ghetto at the scrap yard.
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Lots of jobsite theft too. No copper was safe during that time.
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They were stealing anything made of metal, period. Wire, gutters, fences, flashing on buildings, the occasional high voltage line which didn't end well , you name it. On any given day there was a line of crack heads pushing shopping carts full of stuff scavenged from the ghetto at the scrap yard.
Oh yeah...that was going on here (well in Cleveland...old
abandon buildings as well as new job sites).

I'm probably 20 miles east of Cleveland. Don't recall
any incidents on our jobs but remember it on TV.

Also , scrap yard I go to started photo copying my ID
and taking my license plate number every trip.
That was new. Still doing it this way today.
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Lots of jobsite theft too. No copper was safe during that time.
We were quoting jobs for street lighting left and right after they would pull out the conductors... Then they started pouring concrete over the top of the wiring in the pull boxes to eliminate the theft.
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They were stealing anything made of metal, period. Wire, gutters, fences, flashing on buildings, the occasional high voltage line which didn't end well , you name it. On any given day there was a line of crack heads pushing shopping carts full of stuff scavenged from the ghetto at the scrap yard.
I recall working in a parking structure and someone stole wire from the elevator pit. This was a building over 50 years old and they did it hot! Some hospitals in San Diego were ganked too. They finally made scrap yards hold off on paying on scrap wire for a few days to make sure the wire wasn't stolen. If you have an electrical licence and show it you can receive money on the spot otherwise you have to wait.

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I made a killing waiting around the block from scrap yards and robbing bum's shopping carriages as they came by.
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I Buy all types of scrap wires paying alot more than scrap price let know what you got and i can pay more than any yard with out stripping the wire thanks?
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This is the one I bought in 2013 http://www.rack-a-tiers.com/product/...Stripper-CWS-2

It was about $1400 at the time, not sure what it costs now. I think the machine is excellent. I have tried a bunch of different things with it to make it more productive; mostly in an attempt to remove the outer casing.

We are pretty good at it now, but the only complaint is that the gear wheels will get "gummed up" when trying to strip the casing off the cloth covered wire.

Ultimately I don't think it is cost effective to strip wire if you have to pay someone to do it. If you are paying a guy anyway, better them stripping wire then doing nothing, but would not pay a guy to do it as a rule.

To build any efficiency with it, you need to take the time to set-up your sizes and type of insulation so you are not constantly adjusting the machine.

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This is cheaper...

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Around here they will not except burnt wire and I am ok with that.
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As @sbrn33 says, they won't take it here either. It has to be stripped or not stripped, but when you burn it off they treat it as regular garbage.

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and also illegal to burn wire in many places.

I made a roller /crusher a while back simply two solid steel disks (one driven by a hand crank and compression from a salvaged mcphearson strut on the idle roller)
the rollers pinch the insulation enough to simply pull the copper out by hand.

Cut the conductors in 4 foot lengths and it is easier and faster
and you get more for unburned copper

hand crank because a motor driven one could rip your arm off it the wire
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They will take burned copper here but it's valued at a very low grade.
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So with copper prices on the rise I should buy more Bitcoin?
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So with copper prices on the rise I should buy more Bitcoin?
No I would buy Cardano.

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LOL, I get called from that idiot twice a week. It's a scam, his prices are nowhere near Dabal's.
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While we are on this subject.
Does anyone ( guys who engage in construction projects)
have any wording in your proposals that protect you from
owning a serious spike in copper ?

Let's face it , most construction projects may not start
for 3-6 months after you bid them.
"This proposal is based on a maximum price per 1000' of ____cable and ____ cable, a market increase will be an additional cost factor in this signed contract if the work is delayed and a price increase occurs."
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