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Old 10-08-2011, 01:24 AM   #21
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Stings a lilttle huh?

Wring an advantage out of it. Give him about 200 business cards and tell him to spread the word that you are in buisness.

(If you were in my area, i would say, "just keep do'in what you're do'in for a few more years." )

His friends are all probably cheap too. Don't give him any business cards.
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:38 AM   #22
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I don't have any friends. Only customers.......


Burn that into your mind.



Kids and family are exempt however.
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:10 PM   #23
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I wouldn't mix friends and business. And if you do let them know you are busy and they could probably find someone cheaper. No friend is ever going to expect you to work at your regular charge. I have tones of buddies with framing companies and if I asked them to help me out, I wouldn't expect them to charge me full price. I mean afterall. They're friends right! Probably best to just avoid doing the job or let them know right from the get-go it will cost them. Tell them you'll throw them a deal.
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I wouldn't mix friends and business. And if you do let them know you are busy and they could probably find someone cheaper. No friend is ever going to expect you to work at your regular charge. I have tones of buddies with framing companies and if I asked them to help me out, I wouldn't expect them to charge me full price. I mean afterall. They're friends right! Probably best to just avoid doing the job or let them know right from the get-go it will cost them. Tell them you'll throw them a deal.

A true friend wouldn't ask a business to operate for less than what they normally charge. I've had plenty of my friends do things for me, and I made damn sure I paid them as normal, not with beer, handshakes, or dinners.
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I cringe when friends ask us to do work for them or give them estimates. We'll do it but I always explain that we are running a business with a lot of overhead and that if they are looking for the least espensive company it's not going to be us. I also make sure they understand that they should not feel obligated to hire us just because we are friends. If they aren't 10000% comfortable there will be absolutely no hard feelings if they don't. We usually put a courtesy discount on the estimate but I'd often rather not get it. Too much at stake if there are any issues. It's not worth it for a few bucks. Also you know which friends are always after the cheap work and which are willing to pay for quality. Usually the ones that do hire us are grateful for the discount but say it isn't necessary. They get it.

I've had a couple who think we should do free work since they're our "friends"... except that anyone who thinks that isn't really a friend- they are free loaders who would charge us full price in a second if we hired them for whatever their business is. A courtesy discount is fine, but business is business.
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I help friends thats what friends do. I have a friend that is a plumber we reccomend each other and when he works on my house he gives me a break and i do the same. Most of my friends are business people so they understand that nothing is free and when they ask they always understand its not free but they are not treated as strangers either.
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A true friend wouldn't ask a business to operate for less than what they normally charge. I've had plenty of my friends do things for me, and I made damn sure I paid them as normal, not with beer, handshakes, or dinners.
I'll hook you up sounds like a very beginning venture. Not a legitimate business. Sounds more of a guy trying to go pro with non of the assets. Do you have a truck? Advertised? Tooled up properly? Business license? Contractors license?
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I'll hook you up sounds like a very beginning venture. Not a legitimate business. Sounds more of a guy trying to go pro with non of the assets. Do you have a truck? Advertised? Tooled up properly? Business license? Contractors license?
Looks like you quoted the wrong guy....
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Looks like you quoted the wrong guy....
My bad
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You'll learn like we all did about buddy tradeoffs,and contractor Joe saying "Give me a good price,Cause I gotta lotza work".
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You'll learn like we all did about buddy tradeoffs,and contractor Joe saying "Give me a good price,Cause I gotta lotza work".
This is my personal favorite. NOT ONCE, NOT EVER has anyone who has ever said that come through. When someone says that to you RUN or double your pricecause all it means is they want you to do the job at or below your cost and I 100% guarantee that they:
a) will NEVER be willing to pay a profitable rate AND
b) you will NEVER hear from them again.

Trust me on this one- the check is in the mail
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I just started my own business up, and I'm building clients up by working on the weeknights and weekends. So an old friend (we're talking a guy that I haven't seen or heard of in 10 years) sees me talking to another friend about how I am an electrician and asks if I can come help him out with a project. My exact line was " I can hook you up". Apparently he took that as I'm going to work for free for him. We went to one of the box stores and he bought the materials including a full roll of 14/2 which I only used about 15 feet of, and I finished the work. After I'm done, I'm sitting there waiting for him to pull out his checkbook and he says "I'm really glad you were able to come and help me out...I'll have to take you out to dinner sometime". I was so dumbfounded, I didn't know what to say. What would you guys do in this situation?
I put in 5 hours of work for a guy that I hardly know and he thought that I was going to give it to him for free. I guess I learned a hard lesson today, and that I must always agree on a price before starting work. Never assume a person you know is going to pay you even though it's common sense to EVERYONE else.
LMAO, what kind of job that ends with you getting paid starts without even talking about pricing? You should reconsider this business thing, you're not very bright.
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