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Old 11-18-2017, 02:00 AM   #1
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A couple of years ago I started doing service work in San Francisco ,to make a long story short boy am I glad I did. My phone's been blowing up since then and I always have a backlog of work. Moral of the story is sometimes you get lucky or don't be afraid to try different things . Actually the city is a little bit far away and out of my comfort zone but it's been well worth it.
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Old 11-18-2017, 10:06 AM   #2
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What kind of round trip travel time are you talking?

Are you so busy because you are bidding lower than locals?
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What kind of round trip travel time are you talking?

Are you so busy because you are bidding lower than locals?
It's about a 45-minute commute. And trust me I don't do work for free I charge plenty. I have a guy that covers that area that's worked out pretty well also, he covers 60-80% of the calls. I usually average around 8 to 12 calls a week and I wish I had another guy that could cover that area because if I wanted to I could generate more calls in San Francisco. San Francisco's a rich town and a Old Town so there's a lot of residential upgrade/ renovation work .

My point is sometimes it's worth it to try something out of your comfort zone or a little bit further away. Or maybe a city that a little bit of a headache to deal with
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It's about a 45-minute commute. And trust me I don't do work for free I charge plenty. I have a guy that covers that area that's worked out pretty well also, he covers 60-80% of the calls. I usually average around 8 to 12 calls a week and I wish I had another guy that could cover that area because if I wanted to I could generate more calls in San Francisco. San Francisco's a rich town and a Old Town so there's a lot of residential upgrade/ renovation work .

My point is sometimes it's worth it to try something out of your comfort zone or a little bit further away. Or maybe a city that a little bit of a headache to deal with
I agree with you there 100%.

Just curious if you know what other guys rates are like and if coming from out of the area your rates are lower.
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I agree with you there 100%.

Just curious if you know what other guys rates are like and if coming from out of the area your rates are lower.
I charge at least as much labor as the union shops do . I mark up the hell out of my materials also.
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I charge at least as much labor as the union shops do . I mark up the hell out of my materials also.



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Sounds like he's doing good. Find that next man and keep scaling it up.
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What is SFO?

How are you advertising?
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What is SFO?

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SFO = San Francisco Airport
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SFO = San Francisco Airport
I was just there in September. It looks to me that there is
so much construction going on there , it makes Boston's
Big Dig look tiny.

I mean all up & down HGY 101 thru San Jose too.
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I was just there in September. It looks to me that there is
so much construction going on there , it makes Boston's
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I mean all up & down HGY 101 thru San Jose too.
Haven't been there in a dogs age.
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SFO = San Francisco Airport
He gets 8-12 calls for service per week to the airport?
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Haven't been there in a dogs age.
Compared to when I was stationed there in 85-88 and now ...
it is so different.

San Jose was a small town then . Maybe had 1 or 2 buildings with
4 or 5 floors tops. Now it's a major city. the hills went on and on
with that classic CA golden coloring. Now housing developments
all over the place.

I remember the Trans America pyramid in SF was the architectural
point of it's skyline. Now it has many other tall buildings.
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What is SFO?

How are you advertising?
Maybe to work on the baggage claim conveyors.

i know they were breaking down and not working a month
& half ago
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He gets 8-12 calls for service per week to the airport?
I haven't seen that area in a long time but it sounds like it could be a massive area with all kind of businesses to work on.

Read Lighterup's posts.
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Sounds like he's doing good. Find that next man and keep scaling it up.
I've been trying to get a second guy for the other side of the Bay but haven't had much luck went through a few guys already.
Seems like service work is a little bit different animal , alot of the guys kind of don't understand the process or methodology of working with customers.

I think I'm going to look into trying to get a couple guys out of some of these trade schools or something there's a few of them around the Bay Area.
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SFO = San Francisco Airport
No I mean San Francisco the city. I just call it SFO cuz I'm lazy I don't mean the airport
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I think there is a fair amount of new construction going on. So that empties out the union halls and once that happens there's a shortage of electricians it seems like. But there's some sort of a boom Going On I think that's what fueling this demand for renovating these houses and people want to upgrade things more than normal.

But I think it has more to do with San Francisco being such an Old Town all the houses are old .I mean over 70 years old Plus. And there's plenty of money. I'm not sure if that's typical of most big cities nowadays were the housing is so old but maybe not that there's a lot of demand and money in them.
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I haven't seen that area in a long time but it sounds like it could be a massive area with all kind of businesses to work on.

Read Lighterup's posts.
I have found that when there is a heavy concentration of "new work"
out there, the service call "old work calls" go through the roof. I do
believe this happens cause the companies that prefer "new work"
abandon service work and this reduces competition in that arena.
less competition means higher payoff.

In 2008 when the new work in residential fell through the earths
crust , all of a sudden all these EC's who stuck their noses up at
old work started scrambling to jump into the service call and the
niche generator install business.

I was doing both prior to 08. If I really wanted a service call
or a panel upgrade job , I got it. After 08 , I noticed my numbers
weren't working anymore and I was suddenly too high in price.
since I was handling all the new homes fora higher end builder
and they weren't looking to replace me , I basically stopped the
old work.

Now , at times old work & service calls seems okay , but it's still
not what it was before.
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I was just there in September. It looks to me that there is
so much construction going on there , it makes Boston's
Big Dig look tiny.

I mean all up & down HGY 101 thru San Jose too.
You're absolutely got it right , there's a lot of construction going on in the private sector. Silicon Valley is all just growing like crazy and it's going up north through all the cities. I mean that's where Twitter is located in San Francisco and there's all kinds of companies.

I'm just advertising on some cheesy local platforms some local newspaper type of Internet deals.
I'm thinking of posting some crap on Craigslist just for the heck of it to see what happens also. I know everybody's going to poo poo that but worth a shot. I could spend a lot of money on Yelp and all of that but I don't have the people to cover the calls .if I got more work that's the problem, finding more people that are decent
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