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Old 11-18-2017, 08:04 PM   #21
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Old 11-18-2017, 08:18 PM   #22
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I might have to use a temp agency and then see if there's anybody decent from those resources and then recruit the employees. I know that Im supposed to pay the agency but they don't have to know everything.


I post Craigslist ads on the other side of the bay and get reasonable response and they're not really Tire kickers anymore because I think electricians are hard to find nowadays. Especially with all the fires they had up north the Bay Area is really short of good people now
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I'm with you. The work here is crazy. (Also in SF Bay Area.) I am struggling to keep up. We are booked until January and have 10 proposals always waiting to be sent. The tech money flowing through here is insane. 20-30 year old millionaires spending money like there's no tomorrow.
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You're absolutely got it right , there's a lot of construction going on in the private sector. Silicon Valley is all just growing like crazy and it's going up north through all the cities. I mean that's where Twitter is located in San Francisco and there's all kinds of companies.

I'm just advertising on some cheesy local platforms some local newspaper type of Internet deals.
I'm thinking of posting some crap on Craigslist just for the heck of it to see what happens also. I know everybody's going to poo poo that but worth a shot. I could spend a lot of money on Yelp and all of that but I don't have the people to cover the calls .if I got more work that's the problem, finding more people that are decent
I'd be careful with the craigslist thing , but you know the area there
much better then me.

It seems to me your clientele there would be more inclined to use
the internet search engines ..do that and if you've got "management"
set of skills and are good at guiding several guys through a schedule.

I'll say this . You are in a unique situation that (economically) much of
the rest of the country isn't. This may be a window for you to expand
and start gaining a reputation in the service sector.
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I'd be careful with the craigslist thing , but you know the area there
much better then me.

It seems to me your clientele there would be more inclined to use
the internet search engines ..do that and if you've got "management"
set of skills and are good at guiding several guys through a schedule.

I'll say this . You are in a unique situation that (economically) much of
the rest of the country isn't. This may be a window for you to expand
and start gaining a reputation in the service sector.
Well I think I have stumbled Upon a niche in the economy hopefully I can take advantage of.
But I figured I would share this so other guys might expand into other territories that might seem a little bit out of thier comfort zone. Actually I think San Francisco has always been a city where a service Company can do well whether it be Electrical, Plumbing or something else. I would think most larger cities with older homes and a reasonably good economy would be decent places to operate service companies.
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It's the economy. All markets (DJI, S&P500, Nasdaq) are screaming all time highs and money is cheap and flooding into Silicon Valley. You as the business owner and your employees are the ones the current administration is supporting and it seems to be working well. Keep it up. Maybe offer a relocate or sign on bonus for someone to come from out of the area. They're going to need housing and from what I hear that's the #1 obstacle to relocating to that region.
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SF is where I make all my real money. Work is booming here, there's enough work to go around to anyone and everyone with a brain.
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Well I think I have stumbled Upon a niche in the economy hopefully I can take advantage of.
But I figured I would share this so other guys might expand into other territories that might seem a little bit out of thier comfort zone. Actually I think San Francisco has always been a city where a service Company can do well whether it be Electrical, Plumbing or something else. I would think most larger cities with older homes and a reasonably good economy would be decent places to operate service companies.
No. You are in a very unique situation that may not be found in many other major cities , especially the rust belt.
Though I agree that many houses & businesses are older and need work in
major cities , having a clientele /paying customers that you have in the
Bay Area is not what the major cities are like here in Cleveland , Detroit
Akron etc... these are genrally very poor / welfare incomes , section 8
housing that no body wants to put money into.

Your area is a prime area for gentrification. Take advantage of it .
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Maybe to work on the baggage claim conveyors.

i know they were breaking down and not working a month
& half ago

Ways back, I got called several times a month from Northwest Airlines for electrical service work on their baggage system conveyors at Honolulu Airport. The airport maintenance would not work on the airlines conveyors , it had to be in house, and I hit a lucky spot cause I knew the crews at Northwest well from having installed the access control system at the same airport a few years before that. It was great while Northwest lasted..............
. This was the old way.. ice cube relays and contractors, no plc's in place , although I knew about them and used to try to convince management that they should be upgrading to plc's for the system they had.
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No. You are in a very unique situation that may not be found in many other major cities , especially the rust belt.
Though I agree that many houses & businesses are older and need work in
major cities , having a clientele /paying customers that you have in the
Bay Area is not what the major cities are like here in Cleveland , Detroit
Akron etc... these are genrally very poor / welfare incomes , section 8
housing that no body wants to put money into.

Your area is a prime area for gentrification. Take advantage of it .
Yes I 100% agree with you. I followed a realtor YouTube channel that worked Detroit real estate and he did a lot of videos and all the empty houses they were gorgeous houses back in the day. But some of the houses are being me refurbished but a very low percentage. Someday it might come back in Detroit.

But a lot of people commented that the cost of living is so high out here that is going to limit people moving here .I think that's correct also. I bought my house in the 80s so I don't think I could ever buy a new house for a million dollars here now. Plus I live across the bay in much cheaper area in San Francisco proper.
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It will probably eventually slow down or the bubble will burst here in 10 years or something.
I've been thinking of selling my house and moving out of the area. I could still operate my electrical company from out of state and service the Bay Area
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It will probably eventually slow down or the bubble will burst here in 10 years or something.
I've been thinking of selling my house and moving out of the area. I could still operate my electrical company from out of state and service the Bay Area
If you do that, you will have to borrow the customer's step ladders for the service calls. Don't worry though, that is common practice in San Francisco.
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For the residential service what really helps is the combination of:
older homes
sky high home values
no fresh land to build new subdivisions
Good local economy with high paying jobs

I had something like that in Illinois. If they wanted a new house in certain areas they had to buy to tear down. Or strip it to the bones and make like new. As long as the home values keep rising your fine.
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For the residential service what really helps is the combination of:
older homes
sky high home values
no fresh land to build new subdivisions
Good local economy with high paying jobs

I had something like that in Illinois. If they wanted a new house in certain areas they had to buy to tear down. Or strip it to the bones and make like new. As long as the home values keep rising your fine.
Gee, I wonder what place is like that.............. Nope........ Fagetaboutit.
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