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Old 01-04-2012, 08:37 PM   #1
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A board member in Washington DC wants to make it a requirement that students must take the SAT or the ACT to graduate high school in addition students will be required to apply to at least one college or trade school.

Seems to me, DC is in for an increase in the drop out rate. DC has one of the highest drop out rates in the USA, yet they feel this will help increase the graduation rate?

In an adjacent county they opened 5 newly renovated elementary schools, with full size high school style lockers. One principal was quoted as saying this will prepare the 5-12 year olds for middle school and high school.

SEEMs A GIANT WASTE OF MONEY.
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A board member in Washington DC wants to make it a requirement that students must take the SAT or the ACT to graduate high school in addition students will be required to apply to at least one college or trade school.

Seems to me, DC is in for an increase in the drop out rate. DC has one of the highest drop out rates in the USA, yet they feel this will help increase the graduation rate?

In an adjacent county they opened 5 newly renovated elementary schools, with full size high school style lockers. One principal was quoted as saying this will prepare the 5-12 year olds for middle school and high school.

SEEMs A GIANT WASTE OF MONEY.
OK then, Any better ideas? We are winding down the war machine. They can't take too many more. Where do we put them? Jail?
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Brian. You live there- I just visit.

Look around. DC is probably the worst city in the Country.

They Can take the SAT,MAT,OAT,PAT PDQ,WRE.HJU,GJK,LSA,PSA,LKJ,MNB, ABC. Won't make a difference.

Politicians bring nothing but bad Ilk to a community.
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A board member in Washington DC wants to make it a requirement that students must take the SAT or the ACT to graduate high school in addition students will be required to apply to at least one college or trade school.

Seems to me, DC is in for an increase in the drop out rate. DC has one of the highest drop out rates in the USA, yet they feel this will help increase the graduation rate?

In an adjacent county they opened 5 newly renovated elementary schools, with full size high school style lockers. One principal was quoted as saying this will prepare the 5-12 year olds for middle school and high school.

SEEMs A GIANT WASTE OF MONEY.

a board member of what?

ministry of propaganda?

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OK then, Any better ideas? We are winding down the war machine. They can't take too many more. Where do we put them? Jail?

Who are the 'Them' you speak of?
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On Wednesday, D.C. Council chair Kwame Brown introduced legislation requiring all District high school students to take the ACT or SAT before graduating. Students would also be required to apply to at least one college, including trade schools and the military.
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Who are the 'Them' you speak of?
People that will not or for whatever reason cannot get any type of secondary education.
Them, is the they, coming out of or dropping out of High School.
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OK then, Any better ideas?
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We are winding down the war machine. They can't take too many more. Where do we put them? Jail?
But DC have some of the worse performing schools in the nation, getting the masses pass 9th grade and prepared to work, might be better than requiring something that will result in even fewer graduations.
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People that will not or for whatever reason cannot get any type of secondary education.
Them, is the they, coming out of or dropping out of High School.

Thank you.

This however is not societies fault.

There are more than enough opportunities and programs for ANYONE to participate in personal advancement,If they elect to take the time and EFFORT to afford themselves the opportunity.
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On Wednesday, D.C. Council chair Kwame Brown introduced legislation requiring all District high school students to take the ACT or SAT before graduating. Students would also be required to apply to at least one college, including trade schools and the military.
I would be interested in knowing who administers the test. Private company maybe?

We have something here in Florida called the FCAT. It is something they had in Texas and brought to florida. Its a big worthless waste of time and money.
Guess what, the company that sells the program is tied to two brothers that were Governors of Texas and Florida. One was just barely elected President, twice.
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whatever happened to the land of the free?
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I should add DC has spending for education that is one of the highest in the nation with one of the poorest performing school system. No bang for the buck.

They had a new superintendent of schools, but the union hated her, as her reforms were actually turning the schools around as she fired slackers. The unions backed the new mayor and his first act was to fire her, after she was named top superintendent of the year nationwide and a documentary was made about how her changes were improving the school system
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Thank you.

This however is not societies fault.

There are more than enough opportunities and programs for ANYONE to participate in personal advancement,If they elect to take the time and EFFORT to afford themselves the opportunity.
It doesn't just happen. Other people have to teach and guide you. Look at how many people come here looking for advice on how to get into our trade. I would classify them a very resourceful and a head above most for just being able to get on line to find this forum.
Some have no access or don't know where to even go for help. The kind of stuff we take for granted sometimes.

It is not the fault of the entire "society". The responsibility is on those who know about a problem in our society and choose to look the other way and do nothing.
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I should add DC has spending for education is one of the highest in the nation with one of the poorest performing school system. No bang for the buck.

They had a new superintendent of schools, but the union hated her, as her reforms were actually turning the schools around as she fired slackers. The unions backed the new mayor and his first act was to fire her, after she was named top superintendent of the year nationwide and a documentary was made about how her changes were improving the school system
That's her. Lived by the sword and died by the sword. The problem is not the people, its the leadership.
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1)It doesn't just happen. Other people have to teach and guide you. Look at how many people come here looking for advice on how to get into our trade. I would classify them a very resourceful and a head above most for just being able to get on line to find this forum.
Some have no access or don't know where to even go for help. The kind of stuff we take for granted sometimes.

It is not the fault of the entire "society".2) The responsibility is on those who know about a problem in our society and choose to look the other way and do nothing.



1) Correct. So where are the leaders/guiders/role models of the home, That only 'want better for theirs than they had.'

Thats where it starts.

2) I think 'WE' ME have DONE, OFFERED and PROVIDED enough. At some point you/they must use the tools given..

Darwin was on to something.
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Depends who you ask.

Folks like jrannis and the Huffington posters will tell you that the only option is keep throwing tax payer money at it and sooner or later it should correct itself.

Or blame someone else, that appears to be the new norm.
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And studies have shown where there is parental involvement there is a higher percentage of graduations.
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