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Old 06-04-2019, 08:19 PM   #21
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So what? Who cares? Can't see it from house.

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Old 06-04-2019, 08:35 PM   #22
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Peter. NM was not allowed in South Florida until just before I left. Early 70's.
Houses were built with EMT.
Service underground was PVC and Ridged above ground. Long sweep ridged.
Times have changed.
Would you have preferred the pipe?
I have seen way worse as far as NM runs. Way worse.
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Peter. NM was not allowed in South Florida until just before I left. Early 70's.
Houses were built with EMT.
Service underground was PVC and Ridged above ground. Long sweep ridged.
Times have changed.
Would you have preferred the pipe?
I have seen way worse as far as NM runs. Way worse.
I have too, but this was about typical. I don't prefer pipe, but this could have been done neater like I'll post below.

Overall the wiring was fairly good considering that no journeyman license or apprenticeship is required in Florida. Some companies did do the homeruns much better:

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I have never seen a house have a basement in Florida.
Actually there are houses with basements here, just not a lot. The last one I worked in had a basement woodworking shop to die for. That house was up on a hill so water table was not a problem. (Not many hills here either.)
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I moved here in '91. I had two reasons: get out of the NY snow; and visit Disneyworld frequently. Both counts were satisfied as I took a trip to Disney with the kids (about an hour away) every other week for the first two years. Annual passes make it possible. Eventually the kids tired of the place and so did I. Now it's a once in a blue moon thing. In fact, living here makes you forget to go see all the touristy things. I live 15 minutes from Busch Gardens and a waterpark, but never go. If I didn't have to do service calls by the beach I'd forget there was beaches here. To me it's just one big suburb full of traffic.
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I have too, but this was about typical. I don't prefer pipe, but this could have been done neater like I'll post below.

Overall the wiring was fairly good considering that no journeyman license or apprenticeship is required in Florida. Some companies did do the homeruns much better:

That wire looks nice but there's no way I'd run it that way unless they paid me. My homeruns look like spaghetti. If it's finished or exposed that's a different story.

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There are a lot more than you would expect, even on beachside.
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Florida is ok if you are moving there to die.

I wouldn't wish working here on a dead dog. I see these guys busting their humps for chump change, and I'm glad I didn't get my license here before I moved (I was thinking about doing the retired old guy with a helper thing).

there's only a few things that are really cheaper: home prices, early bird specials, and billiards. everything else is pretty much the same (food, gas, etc) as northeast corridor. property taxes where I live are 3x higher than back in MD.

basically, you are switching 6 mos of cold for 6 mos of oppressive hot, although if there's a breeze (which is often the case) the hot aint so bad as, say, vegas or death valley.

not trying to poop on FL here, just keeping it real (I'm here for 5 years now).

fact is, my wife wanted to move here, so I just went along with the program. it's working out ok . . . no major complaints, but I don't know how these non union guys here make any change. I really don't. ('cept for maybe the plumbers)

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2 rules. You absolutely must get a boat. And you absolutely must stay out on your boat 100% of the time you are on that sandbar.......



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Florida is ok if you are moving there to die.

I wouldn't wish working here on a dead dog. I see these guys busting their humps for chump change, and I'm glad I didn't get my license here before I moved (I was thinking about doing the retired old guy with a helper thing).

there's only a few things that are really cheaper: home prices, early bird specials, and billiards. everything else is pretty much the same (food, gas, etc) as northeast corridor. property taxes where I live are 3x higher than back in MD.

basically, you are switching 6 mos of cold for 6 mos of oppressive hot, although if there's a breeze (which is often the case) the hot aint so bad as, say, vegas or death valley.

not trying to poop on FL here, just keeping it real (I'm here for 5 years now).

fact is, my wife wanted to move here, so I just went along with the program. it's working out ok . . . no major complaints, but I don't know how these non union guys here make any change. I really don't. ('cept for maybe the plumbers)

as always, just my .02
It really all depends on where you lived in the northeast before. In my mom's case, she got a much nicer and newer house that anything available here in her price range, and her taxes are about half what they would be here as well. There's also no car tax in FL either. Oppressive hot is still easier to deal with than oppressive cold, especially snow and ice.

Electrician's pay in FL does remain on the lower end of the scale, but has gotten better in recent years. Plumbers and hvac guys are now about even with what their counterparts make in the northeast.
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I've been gone from the forum for a while but being a true Floridian, I wouldn't trade it for the world. Yes, our wages suck but you can still make a good living here. Just don't do resi. I did only commercial and industrial before I went behind a desk.



To the original OP, I live in the swamps of central Fl and gators, snakes, turtles and frogs are part of the menu. LOL
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There's no doubt it can be brutal during the summer, but I still like it there. Also considering Myrtle Beach or Charleston for retirement. Like Savannah too.
Consider sleepy little Georgetown county. About half way between and a lot less traffic and tourists.

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It really all depends on where you lived in the northeast before. In my mom's case, she got a much nicer and newer house that anything available here in her price range, and her taxes are about half what they would be here as well. There's also no car tax in FL either. Oppressive hot is still easier to deal with than oppressive cold, especially snow and ice.

Electrician's pay in FL does remain on the lower end of the scale, but has gotten better in recent years. Plumbers and hvac guys are now about even with what their counterparts make in the northeast.

I figure I could probably sell my current home when it comes time and have quite a bit left over from the sale and purchase of something responsible down there. Some of the modulars look pretty good. Certainly something smaller and less to take care of.
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I figure I could probably sell my current home when it comes time and have quite a bit left over from the sale and purchase of something responsible down there. Some of the modulars look pretty good. Certainly something smaller and less to take care of.
You can find crazy cheap condos in 55 and older developments.
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I want something that doesn't have stupid HOA rules about working on cars or having your garage open. I'd be open to a condo though.
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I want something that doesn't have stupid HOA rules about working on cars or having your garage open. I'd be open to a condo though.
Condos have HOA's and lots of rules. If you want no rules you need to buy a house on a private lot that is not part of a development. Or a run down trailer in a run down trailer park.

Interesting aside: Apparently HOA's can expire. My HOA forgot to renew itself, expired, and now they can't enforce any rules. LOL.
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After seeing the amount of work in that wonderful state I had a talk with my boss last night . I told him we should (will) start a Florida Division . I was shocked when he said yeah that's a great idea look into it . The electrical license looks gravy . The GC part is way different than here . They require a very high credit score . That will be a problem . I have crappy credit .

So friends to the south look out we are coming YO !!
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Uh,
Retired people don't want to see people working on cars in the parking lot so, move along.
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Retired people don't want to see people working on cars in the parking lot so, move along.
Trust me, I know all about retired folks. Been working in elderly housing and taking care of aging parents and grandparents for some time. Trying not to get old myself...
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