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Old 01-17-2017, 08:52 PM   #81
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I like the XDM. not the XD.
I love their custom shop 1911s, carried one for years. I made the switch to the Sig Nightmare.

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I love their custom shop 1911s, carried one for years. I made the switch to the Sig Nightmare.

That's a beautiful piece of hardware but, just way to complicated for me and, I see no point in a non DO pistol.
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:15 PM   #83
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That's a beautiful piece of hardware but, just way to complicated for me and, I see no point in a non DO pistol.
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What's complicated? Do you mean 'Double Action'?

I can strip it down in the dark and put it back together in no time flat. I'm a 1911 guy from birth and I'm totally comfortable with every aspect of it.

The 1911 has been the pistol that has the longest career as the main military sidearm.
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What's complicated? Do you mean 'Double Action'?

I can strip it down in the dark and put it back together in no time flat. I'm a 1911 guy from birth and I'm totally comfortable with every aspect of it.

The 1911 has been the pistol that has the longest career as the main military sidearm.
What about the 1895 Nagant?
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What's complicated? Do you mean 'Double Action'?

I can strip it down in the dark and put it back together in no time flat. I'm a 1911 guy from birth and I'm totally comfortable with every aspect of it.

The 1911 has been the pistol that has the longest career as the main military sidearm.
I know it's a potato but, it has a safety, a grip safety and to carry it in "condition 1" it has to have one in the pipe and be cocked and locked.
Single action is just not for me.
My beloved Glock isn't as easy to take apart but, I'm not carrying open holster in a military environment so, for me, 17 rounds of .40, DAO, is best for me.

A good friend of mine wanted to move his Kimber. It was pure artwork but, the mods I wanted to make it useful for me would have added a grand to the price of it.

I'm not saying I don't miss the 1911, our new fancy smancy range rents them. I might have to go fire one now that you have me all nostalgic.
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What about the 1895 Nagant?
Well first off it's a revolver and not a pistol. It's a good design, especially the gas sealed feature making it capable of being silenced. I like revolvers a lot but in a gun fight rapid reloading is a huge factor.
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I know it's a potato but, it has a safety, a grip safety and to carry it in "condition 1" it has to have one in the pipe and be cocked and locked.
Single action is just not for me.
My beloved Glock isn't as easy to take apart but, I'm not carrying open holster in a military environment so, for me, 17 rounds of .40, DAO, is best for me.

A good friend of mine wanted to move his Kimber. It was pure artwork but, the mods I wanted to make it useful for me would have added a grand to the price of it.

I'm not saying I don't miss the 1911, our new fancy smancy range rents them. I might have to go fire one now that you have me all nostalgic.

One statistic that is never or very rarely in the news is accidental firing of those DAO autos you love so much. There are some news stories out there because of the audience when they occurred.

The detective that was at a scene and reholstering his pistol when his jacket caught the trigger and he was shot in the hip, the off duty cop at a mall that was locking his seat belt and his pistol fired into his thigh and he bled to death before help arrived. The most famous (on video) accident where the DEA agent talking to a HS class shot himself in the leg when putting his pistol down. There are far more 'accidents' with DAOs than any design similar to a 1911 design. It happens but is suppressed.

The Israeli military forces that I respect highly carry their pistols with empty chambers. Their are years of experience going into that decision they've made.

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I don't have a holster with an exposed trigger. And the DEA agent was a typical non gun guy. Many LEOs are just not up to snuff on firearm handling. I know that seems out of whack. But shooting 100 rounds a year to qualify is not enough. In our NRA classes, this is on the bottom of the lesson page. Because students with minimal handling experience will have handguns in their hands during class.
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Well first off it's a revolver and not a pistol. It's a good design, especially the gas sealed feature making it capable of being silenced. I like revolvers a lot but in a gun fight rapid reloading is a huge factor.
I picked one up a few years ago, just because it is so weird. I can not read the double action trigger pull, my gauge maxes out a 8 lbs. Anyone who likes mechanical things could appreciate a M1895 Nagant. It entered service in 1895 and in 2106 is still used some third world armies and national police forces. It is a still a sidearm, just not a pistol, and it is very slow to reload. Fun to shoot and amaze your friends.
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I picked one up a few years ago, just because it is so weird. I can not read the double action trigger pull, my gauge maxes out a 8 lbs. Anyone who likes mechanical things could appreciate a M1895 Nagant. It entered service in 1895 and in 2106 is still used some third world armies and national police forces. It is a still a sidearm, just not a pistol, and it is very slow to reload. Fun to shoot and amaze your friends.
I have some very different handguns that have been handed down in my family for many years and they are all cool in their own way. I have fired none of them.

I have a different perspective on firearms than most normal owners.

Any firearms I have ever purchased myself were tools to serve a purpose.
Some for range time enjoyment only, some to keep venison in the freezer, and some to stop bad things from occurring. Just a means to an end.

Weapons have been a part of my life from a young age and still are and always will be.
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I picked one up a few years ago, just because it is so weird. I can not read the double action trigger pull, my gauge maxes out a 8 lbs. Anyone who likes mechanical things could appreciate a M1895 Nagant. It entered service in 1895 and in 2106 is still used some third world armies and national police forces. It is a still a sidearm, just not a pistol, and it is very slow to reload. Fun to shoot and amaze your friends.
I remember a story a few years back where a crazy guy showed up at a business with one of those and shot someone with it. Another guy grabbed it and jammed his thenar right where that giant needle of a firing pin comes down. The guy clicked it a couple of times and mr hero had enough of that, pulled his hand back and with it came the Nagant attached to his hand.
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I remember a story a few years back where a crazy guy showed up at a business with one of those and shot someone with it. Another guy grabbed it and jammed his thenar right where that giant needle of a firing pin comes down. The guy clicked it a couple of times and mr hero had enough of that, pulled his hand back and with it came the Nagant attached to his hand.
Shooting the perp with your own weapon would have been so much less annoying.
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That's a beautiful piece of hardware but, just way to complicated for me and, I see no point in a non DO pistol.
I don't know why, but my taste in firearms always goes beyond my budget. What is the need for a double stack 1911? Cause nobody has one? I don't know.
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I don't know why, but my taste in firearms always goes beyond my budget. What is the need for a double stack 1911? Cause nobody has one? I don't know.
When the 9mm became popular with LE agencies the reemergence of the double tap technique came back with vigor.

The tactic was developed for disabling a target with FMJ small arms ammo.

Had they just had a .45 that took out a larger hunk of meat they wouldn't have needed to develop the practice to begin with.

I haven't seen a civilian self defense incident that required more than 9 rounds.

If you need more get a 10 rd mag and you'll have 11 to play badass with.
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14 with the para.too much? I guess the zombie **** is over now.
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14 with the para.too much? I guess the zombie **** is over now.
For zombies one 9mm SJHP 115gr self defense round to the head should be adequate. The glock 33 rd mag is perfect for this type scenario.

Zombie sh!t isn't over they invaded DC yesterday and are still roaming around the streets.
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I don't know why, but my taste in firearms always goes beyond my budget. What is the need for a double stack 1911? Cause nobody has one? I don't know.
Double stack? Why stop there, go for a double barrel from Arsenal Firearms.
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When the 9mm became popular with LE agencies the reemergence of the double tap technique came back with vigor.

The tactic was developed for disabling a target with FMJ small arms ammo.

Had they just had a .45 that took out a larger hunk of meat they wouldn't have needed to develop the practice to begin with.

I haven't seen a civilian self defense incident that required more than 9 rounds.

If you need more get a 10 rd mag and you'll have 11 to play badass with.
Firing a 1911 .45 isn't a pleasant experience for most people and women are not that interested at all. The 10mm was supposed to be the civilian LEO version to replace the .45 and that was too hot of a round for the suit and tie folks and the .40 was adopt for quite a while. Now it looks like 9mm is on the way back in.
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Firing a 1911 .45 isn't a pleasant experience for most people and women are not that interested at all. The 10mm was supposed to be the civilian LEO version to replace the .45 and that was too hot of a round for the suit and tie folks and the .40 was adopt for quite a while. Now it looks like 9mm is on the way back in.
My wife had only fired .38 revolvers and 9mms coming from a military family in South Africa and fell in love with my 1911 EDC. She carried one as her CCW since then.

For the reasons I carry a handgun I don't need the additional power in a 10mm or I'd carry one. I find a 9mm inadequate for all scenarios. Shooting plates on the gun club plate range I use 9mm unless I just feel like using a 1911 for S&Giggles.

I was given a .40 S&W for a present and it's a good little gun but so far it has only been used for range time. I'll stay with the Sig for EDC and a snub nose .38/.357 for the bedside table.
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I don't know why, but my taste in firearms always goes beyond my budget. What is the need for a double stack 1911? Cause nobody has one? I don't know.
The double stack aka 2011 (meaning the magazine capacity) made by STI and LimCat are popular in my circle, the competition world. But they serve a very specific purpose. If you watch or participate in a USPSA match you will understand why they have such a following. The only reason I don't own one is merely economics, I can build a limited class Glock for a third of the cost. Are the above mentioned guns better, absolutely but I shoot what I can afford and more importantly keeps the wife off my back about money.
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